Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao: I'll Fight Mayweather, The Fans Want It

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Damn, 500+posts you guys should go for 1000 lol.

[Chups]

Cotto didn't want to defend his title at 145 but he was forced by Pac nd WBO to put his title up at a catch weight.

Again I don't care what happened or how the negotiation went back and forth.....the fight still happened right?


Pac forced him huh? And Cotto obliged? Floyd should learn from Pac, Floyd should force Pac!

[mikemurni]

Manny fought Oscar De La Hoya at 147 not 145 for his first try at WW. He even weighed 149, night of the fight. Why couldn't Pac take the fight at 147 with Cotto? If weight wasn't an issue. Why did Roach and Pac hold out and make Cotto give in?

Your answer is everything in that post.. Pac was not yet a legitimate WW. He had one fight at 135, then 147, and back down to 140.. So how can you really tell what weight class Pac belongs to at that point. The only reason that they made him move up to WW was because all the money fights are in that weight.

[LeadUppercut]

Lol @ when Mayweather decides it's time...for the love of god man.

Keep it real.

Manny had his chance, but he preferred to offer 6 ridiculous excuses.

And now, the vacationer has to drop what he's doing because Pacquiao made a "promise" to the media?

Hard luck for him. He can put up with the steroid accusations until Mayweather get's his **** together.

[LeadUppercut]

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I think the other way around. Random test all the way to the fight to me is as simple as testing randomly until on the day of the fight. How can you say it is a random test when NO testing at all happen in that 18 day gap.

Random test all the way up to the fight is doing random test as close as possible to the day of the fight that why it is all the way up. Not that random test and just bluff the fighters that they will be test all the way to fight. Bluffing test will not caught power pellets

Why would you ask me that question, when it was answered in the post that you replied to?

NO testing at all = random, as long as both fighters are under the impression that they could be tested at anytime.

It is the possibility, that makes the test random.

Anyone with half a fkn brain can see that.

Why don't you guys smarten up and stop making ****** excuses.

[LeadUppercut]

I thought he had already fought him twice? Can you name a fighter who had fought Marquez more than Pacquiao? OMG, you're the one who looks like an idiot....LOL!!

Yep, and we all saw what happened there.

Pacquiao has not stepped up since that fight.

[LeadUppercut]

I have made several reply to **** on that post, and then you keep recycling to restart the argument again.. Typical of a *****..


Here:::

Mosley, Marg, Cotto and Clottey are greater than Baldomir,Judah,Mitchell anytime of the day..You kiddin me.. Mitchell is damn tuneup for Floyd, and Judah and Baldomir are not exactly the same level as Cotto, Clottey, and Marg. Not even close..

Cotto was 146 when he fought Clottey, that 1 lb was not the difference on why Pac won that fight, not to mention that that fight had Pac only slightly favor to win, which means it was a 50/50 fight. And this was done in a period of just 2 years, in his last 4 fights. Meaning he took them all successively. Not to mention before those 4 fights (Cotto, Clottey, Marg, Mosley), he was not yet a legitimate WW.. So yeah.. keep reaching...

Here some more::

First off, Pac fought Cotto and Marg at a catchweight of 145 and 150 respectively.. So based on this you already formulated that it wasnt a great win for Pac?? Forgetting that Cotto came in at 146 in his last weigh in, and Marg is a career WW.. Then you say that Oscar was a better win when we both know that Oscar has not been significant since Hopkins and his first retirement.

Second, you said that Mitchell, and JMM were better fighters than Clottey, when none of them fought any top level competition at 147 before they fought Floyd...At least Clottey has been in there with the likes of Cotto and Marg, and was competitive in both fights. I may somewhat agree with you with Judah and Baldomir, but they aint no Cotto and Margarito.

Third, its true that Clottey was 147, and both Marg and Cotto were fought in the catchweight but then this facts are all trivial anyway. What makes it ****** is that you are already formulating an opinion just purely based on this, and then presenting it as a fact as if its an end all of all discussion that cannot be refuted..

Kid.....

For THE FIFTH TIME.....

I challenge you to refute anything in my post that is even slightly inaccurate.....

I'm simplifying my request, and bolding the parts that apply, because you aint too bright.

Originally Posted by LeadUppercut

The only ww that Manny has EVER fought at 147 is..... Josh Clottey.

Mayweather fought Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, Mosley..... I don't count Hatton or Marquez as WW.

So, let's summarize.....

Above 147.....
Manny fought faded no-wraps cheato at catch-weight, Floyd fought Hoya at 154 when he was champ, no comparison there.

At 147.....
Clottey, who wouldn't fight back for some reason, and Cotto at 145..... is not as good as Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, Mosley, Hatton, and Marquez at 147.

Don't duck me son, man up.

[mikemurni]

Kid.....

For THE FIFTH TIME.....

I challenge you to refute anything in my post that is even slightly inaccurate.....

I'm simplifying my request, and bolding the parts that apply, because you aint too bright.

Originally Posted by LeadUppercut

The only ww that Manny has EVER fought at 147 is..... Josh Clottey.

Mayweather fought Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, Mosley..... I don't count Hatton or Marquez as WW.

So, let's summarize.....

Above 147.....
Manny fought faded no-wraps cheato at catch-weight, Floyd fought Hoya at 154 when he was champ, no comparison there.

At 147.....
Clottey, who wouldn't fight back for some reason, and Cotto at 145..... is not as good as Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, Mosley, Hatton, and Marquez at 147.

Don't duck me son, man up.

Recycled **** deserves a recycled response...

Here:::

Mosley, Marg, Cotto and Clottey are greater than Baldomir,Judah,Mitchell anytime of the day..You kiddin me.. Mitchell is damn tuneup for Floyd, and Judah and Baldomir are not exactly the same level as Cotto, Clottey, and Marg. Not even close..

Cotto was 146 when he fought Clottey, that 1 lb was not the difference on why Pac won that fight, not to mention that that fight had Pac only slightly favor to win, which means it was a 50/50 fight. And this was done in a period of just 2 years, in his last 4 fights. Meaning he took them all successively. Not to mention before those 4 fights (Cotto, Clottey, Marg, Mosley), he was not yet a legitimate WW.. So yeah.. keep reaching...

Here some more::

First off, Pac fought Cotto and Marg at a catchweight of 145 and 150 respectively.. So based on this you already formulated that it wasnt a great win for Pac?? Forgetting that Cotto came in at 146 in his last weigh in, and Marg is a career WW.. Then you say that Oscar was a better win when we both know that Oscar has not been significant since Hopkins and his first retirement.

Second, you said that Mitchell, and JMM were better fighters than Clottey, when none of them fought any top level competition at 147 before they fought Floyd...At least Clottey has been in there with the likes of Cotto and Marg, and was competitive in both fights. I may somewhat agree with you with Judah and Baldomir, but they aint no Cotto and Margarito.

Third, its true that Clottey was 147, and both Marg and Cotto were fought in the catchweight but then this facts are all trivial anyway. What makes it ****** is that you are already formulating an opinion just purely based on this, and then presenting it as a fact as if its an end all of all discussion that cannot be refuted..

[LeadUppercut]

Kid, I was here way before you did..So try again.... No you are not.. You are giving excuses for Cotto with the way you are posting now.

Cotto outboxed Mosley at 147 after coming in at 146 in the weigh in. And that 1 lb was a not a factor on why Pac defeated Cotto, and why Cotto defeated Mosley..

You are a ridiculous, flag-waving, non-boxing, fanboy.

Margarito and Clottey both battered Cotto. EVERYBODY was saying that Cotto looked shop-worn and faded after Clottey. Miguel was not on top of his game, he had no trainer to speak of, and he most definitely was not in his prime.

It is a joke that you do not understand those points.

Plus, Manny Pacquiao is a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto.

There are only two reasons to demand a catch-weight.....
1.) either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which is fine
2.) or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage, which is cowardly

Team Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, coz Manny had already fought at 147.

I do not care if Cotto was not affected by the weight manipulation, just because the bullet missed, does not lessen the intent.

[mikemurni]

You are a ridiculous, flag-waving, non-boxing, fanboy.

Margarito and Clottey both battered Cotto. EVERYBODY was saying that Cotto looked shop-worn and faded after Clottey. Miguel was not on top of his game, he had no trainer to speak of, and he most definitely was not in his prime.

It is a joke that you do not understand those points.

Plus, Manny Pacquiao is a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto.

There are only two reasons to demand a catch-weight.....
1.) either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which is fine
2.) or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage, which is cowardly

Team Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, coz Manny had already fought at 147.

I do not care if Cotto was not affected by the weight manipulation, just because the bullet missed, does not lessen the intent.

First, You admitted it yourself Cotto was not weight drain at 145, which means that Cotto was able to fight comfortably. So how are you are not giving Pac the credit for this fight.

Second, you said that Cotto didnt have the proper trainer on his side. This is the because load of crap I have ever heard. Cotto held his trainer in high regard when he fought Pac. Steward offered his services for that fight but Cotto turn it down because he felt comfortable with Santiago.. And how the **** is that Pac's fault. Cotto is being paid high enough to hire the best trainer in perhaps in one of his biggest fight of his career.. Plus he was already having problems with his old trainer/uncle (lawsuit, fight) so the dynamics between trainer/fighter would have been an added distraction that he didnt need.

Third, Did you give Pac his props when he fought DLH? Because if not, how can you use that as a guage that Pac can fight at WW. He had 3 fights in 3 different weight classes before he fought Cotto, so how can you justify that he was a legitimate WW at that time...

Fourth, Cotto looked like **** against Clottey because Clottey is a good fighter himself, and is one of the top WW. Marg, who was at that time was on the top of his game, looked the same way when he fought Clottey.. Besides Pac fought Clottey after he defeated Cotto so what the **** are you complaining about..

Lets face it the reason why you are ****ting on Pac right now is because he is taking the spotlight out of Floyd. Floyd for once in his life can truly say that he is not the best fighter. And a ***** like you cant accept that.. So you are ****tin' on Pac's resume to raise the profile of Floyd. That's really what this rubbish is all about..