Fan asks Manny, "Are you gonna take the tests or what?" Manny responds....

[jtiger78]

And how many people believe that aside from *****s... i know *******s like nelson madela dont. But what do they know? Friggin ***** and Harry Reid are validating Pac by meeting up with him. How can they validate a roid user like pac... Can't they see the evidence... The increase in head size, bringing power up to the heavier weights.. What idiots. Can't they see how impossible the feat Pac accomplished is? Dang it is more impossible then being a first black president of a country.. *******s are idiots you wonder how they led a country out of turmoil.

as usual a comment from u avoiding the actual topic of the thread with semantics and mind games

[jtiger78]

everyone just avoided the actual post by calling names and insults the post was about pac avoiding the testing question, every super pac fan on this board says he agreed to random test with no cut off soooooooo whats you guys response to this? not trying to be funny or say hes on roids but imjustsayin

[Chuckguy]

I forgot what I was going to type

[jqSide]

In all honesty, I agree with you here.... I liek floyd as a fighter. Soem may even call me a *****, but he damn sure could do a better job exposing manny. I would be on espn right now saying, if manny takes full random testing he can fight me.

If he cant then I would ask the reporters and everyone else what is he hiding???

I would consistently do this as well as say over and over I agreed to pay 10,000,000 per pound if I go over. I agreed to the glove size he wanted and the ring size, hell even a 50/50 split....

When I got through with manny he would either Fight or retire.I would go to the manny/mosley press conference, and do that **** clubber lang (MR. T/ROCKY) STYLE.

They would know I want to fight.

I would ask on national tv, what are these special shakes alex ariza is making....

Because what floyd doesnt seem to understand is that 99 percent of the people listening ahve never been to boxing scene, or do not know anything about the negotiations. They are listening to uninformed people.

I'm glad there is an agreement here. That's all there is to it. Floyd should come out in the open and express his intentions of fighting Pac with his terms laid out clearly. Point is, put the ball squarely on Pac's lap. If Pac disagrees with his terms, hell should break loose on Pac's circle. I would suggest that Floyd also mention possible opponents. Kind of like do what the Romans do. If mean if Pac disagrees, there's gotta be a plan B for Floyd. You don't express your intentions without a ready option.

Right now it's not clear whether he has intentions of fighting Pac or not.

[Pacquiao'd]

me and my one of my dudes just got finished building on some real life stuff.....he told me that ppl are programmed to BELIEVE and NOT to THINK!!!....he told me the word BELIEVE is used by ALL politicians because that word is a ear comforter to the listener.....some of the world's GREATEST liars have made this word a MAJOR part of their vocabulary

as my old head was schooling me....I began to think about this question and the answer Manny gave.....the thing is, we were talking about politics and the shady government....but some how my thoughts flew to this....now before dudes get all defensive and start trying to prove they passed the NSB bar examine and start playing defense attorney.....I'm not saying Manny aint being real....but don't believe anything these dudes being saying

stop BELIEVING and start THINKING.....use yall heads man....NEITHER squad wants this rumble....Manny don't want no tests and Floyd dont want no L's

if thats the case, floyd wouldnt have asked for test which pac can easily attempt and call his bluff. so what you said at the end, makes no sense

floyd just isnt going to compromise any more since he tried and they showed their ass

[Pullcounter]

Okay slowmo, I will take it easy on you.. No where in shane/floyd's contract was there a 18 day cut off... It was no where to be found....

Its not even logical to think they will test them everyday......

THE CONTRACT STATED RANDOM BLOOD TESTING


RANDOM: Without definite aim, purpose, method, or adherence to a prior arrangement; in a haphazard way: Contestants were chosen at random from the studio audience.

DO YOU NOW UNDERSTAND WHAT RANDOM MEANS? THERE IS NO SPECIFIC DATE!!! MANNY IS ASKING FOR A SPECIFIC DATE.

THIS **** BY DEFINITION MEANS MANNY IS NOT WILLING TO TAKE RANDOM BLOOD TEST!

Everytime you spout that x18 day nonsense, I ask myself does this guy know what RANDOM MEANS???

EVER PLAYED A FIGHTING GAME (SAY MORTAL KOMBAT) AND 'RANDOM SELECTED' A CHARACTER??

THE POINT IS YOU DONT KNOW WHO ITS GOING TO BE OR WHAT FIGHTER THE CURSOR WILL SELECT.You dont even know how many times the cursor will move until it selects someone. This is random!!!

So please stop saying the 18 day nonsense, since you now have teh definition to RANDOM.... IGNORANCE IS NOT BLISS. DONT BE WILLFULLY IGNORANT MY DUDE, BECAUSE YOU LIKE A FIGHTER.





Manny wants a guaranteed cutoff day !!!!!

Do you understand the difference???

Each day shane and floyd was expecting them to show up, even if they didnt.. Thats the thing about RANDOM.... They could show up at any time!!!

AT ANY TIME!!!!

MANNY WAS TRYING TO CONTROL THE TESTING...

WHY WOULD HE WANT TO CONTROL TESTING??

BECAUSE THATS THE WAY CHEATING IS DONE.



IF YOU ARE TRYING TO CATCH A THIEF, YOU DONT TELL HIM WHAT TIME YOU WILL BE LOOKING FOR HIM DO YOU?

wow... you're so ****in dumb... you had the definition of "random" in your post, but then you go and define "random" as something else... let's review

The defiintion of random as posted by you:

RANDOM: Without definite aim, purpose, method, or adherence to a prior arrangement; in a haphazard way:

here's you redefining what "random" means to fit your agenda.

THE POINT IS YOU DONT KNOW WHO ITS GOING TO BE OR WHAT FIGHTER THE CURSOR WILL SELECT.You dont even know how many times the cursor will move until it selects someone.

"without adherence to prior arrangement" is not the same as "without prior foreknowledge".

"without adherence to prior arrangement" entails "without prior foreknowledge", but "without prior foreknowledge" does not entail "without adherence to prior arrangement".

in laymans terms, just cause you didn't know something was gonna happen doesn't mean that ***** was random.

for the wifebeater/mosley fight, the testing was not "random". True, wifebeater and mosley didn't have foreknowledge, but the blood testing was prearranged. "how so?" you may ask... simple, the USDA prearranged the cut off date for bloodtesting mosley at 18 days and 19 for wifebeater. the USDA prearranged the times when they were gonna come bloodtest wifebeater and mosley. that doesn't sound "random" to me.

"But wifebeater and mosley didn't know when they were gonna be bloodtested?" you ask? true, but once again lack of foreknowledge is not the same thing as lack of prearrangement.

now how does this apply to a 7 day cut off for pac/trollweather if the fight ever comes off?

it's simple. pac and maytroller will not have foreknowledge of any impending pre-arranged bloodtesting through out their entire training camp up until 7 days before the fight. They will know that there won't be any bloodtesting in the 7 days before the fight, but they will not know when any impending pre-arranged urine testing will occur during that time.

"but what if pac or wifebeater take PEDs within those 7 days" you ask? I will answer that question with a few questions: How many PEDS can pac or wifebeater take that will actually be effective within a 7 day window in time to help them in the fight (give me a list)? And of those PEDs that you give, how many of them can thwart the urine-testing in those 7 days and immediately after the fight? how many of those PEDs can thwart a blood-test given immediately after the fight? Given that 7 days prior to the fight when the training camp has already winded down and the boxers are in heavy promotion is taking PEDs in those 7 days even going to help?

Now, if you can answer all those questions, I will be able to answer the question "but what if pac or wifebeater take PEDs within those 7 days".

Therefore, I re-assert my position that a 7 day cut off is superior to an 18 day cut off in that bloodtesting can be done up to 7 days before the fight rather than 18 days before the fight.

thank you, come again.

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

wow... you're so ****in dumb... you had the definition of "random" in your post, but then you go and define "random" as something else... let's review

The defiintion of random as posted by you:
here's you redefining what "random" means to fit your agenda.
"without adherence to prior arrangement" is not the same as "without prior foreknowledge".

"without adherence to prior arrangement" entails "without prior foreknowledge", but "without prior foreknowledge" does not entail "without adherence to prior arrangement".

in laymans terms, just cause you didn't know something was gonna happen doesn't mean that ***** was random.

for the wifebeater/mosley fight, the testing was not "random". True, wifebeater and mosley didn't have foreknowledge, but the blood testing was prearranged. "how so?" you may ask... simple, the USDA prearranged the cut off date for bloodtesting mosley at 18 days and 19 for wifebeater. the USDA prearranged the times when they were gonna come bloodtest wifebeater and mosley. that doesn't sound "random" to me.

"But wifebeater and mosley didn't know when they were gonna be bloodtested?" you ask? true, but once again lack of foreknowledge is not the same thing as lack of prearrangement.

now how does this apply to a 7 day cut off for pac/trollweather if the fight ever comes off?

it's simple. pac and maytroller will not have foreknowledge of any impending pre-arranged bloodtesting through out their entire training camp up until 7 days before the fight. They will know that there won't be any bloodtesting in the 7 days before the fight, but they will not know when any impending pre-arranged urine testing will occur during that time.

"but what if pac or wifebeater take PEDs within those 7 days" you ask? I will answer that question with a few questions: How many PEDS can pac or wifebeater take that will actually be effective within a 7 day window in time to help them in the fight (give me a list)? And of those PEDs that you give, how many of them can thwart the urine-testing in those 7 days and immediately after the fight? how many of those PEDs can thwart a blood-test given immediately after the fight? Given that 7 days prior to the fight when the training camp has already winded down and the boxers are in heavy promotion is taking PEDs in those 7 days even going to help?

Now, if you can answer all those questions, I will be able to answer the question "but what if pac or wifebeater take PEDs within those 7 days".

Therefore, I re-assert my position that a 7 day cut off is superior to an 18 day cut off in that bloodtesting can be done up to 7 days before the fight rather than 18 days before the fight.

thank you, come again.

typing a bunch of words and talking in circles dont make u look any lesser of an idiot. u repeat the same shyt the rest of u clowns say. continue and try to be cute. it keeps the masses entertained. sort of like the forum jester.

[Haglerwins]

wow... you're so ****in dumb... you had the definition of "random" in your post, but then you go and define "random" as something else... let's review

The defiintion of random as posted by you:
here's you redefining what "random" means to fit your agenda.
"without adherence to prior arrangement" is not the same as "without prior foreknowledge".

"without adherence to prior arrangement" entails "without prior foreknowledge", but "without prior foreknowledge" does not entail "without adherence to prior arrangement".

in laymans terms, just cause you didn't know something was gonna happen doesn't mean that ***** was random.

for the wifebeater/mosley fight, the testing was not "random". True, wifebeater and mosley didn't have foreknowledge, but the blood testing was prearranged. "how so?" you may ask... simple, the USDA prearranged the cut off date for bloodtesting mosley at 18 days and 19 for wifebeater. the USDA prearranged the times when they were gonna come bloodtest wifebeater and mosley. that doesn't sound "random" to me.

"But wifebeater and mosley didn't know when they were gonna be bloodtested?" you ask? true, but once again lack of foreknowledge is not the same thing as lack of prearrangement.

now how does this apply to a 7 day cut off for pac/trollweather if the fight ever comes off?

it's simple. pac and maytroller will not have foreknowledge of any impending pre-arranged bloodtesting through out their entire training camp up until 7 days before the fight. They will know that there won't be any bloodtesting in the 7 days before the fight, but they will not know when any impending pre-arranged urine testing will occur during that time.

"but what if pac or wifebeater take PEDs within those 7 days" you ask? I will answer that question with a few questions: How many PEDS can pac or wifebeater take that will actually be effective within a 7 day window in time to help them in the fight (give me a list)? And of those PEDs that you give, how many of them can thwart the urine-testing in those 7 days and immediately after the fight? how many of those PEDs can thwart a blood-test given immediately after the fight? Given that 7 days prior to the fight when the training camp has already winded down and the boxers are in heavy promotion is taking PEDs in those 7 days even going to help?

Now, if you can answer all those questions, I will be able to answer the question "but what if pac or wifebeater take PEDs within those 7 days".

Therefore, I re-assert my position that a 7 day cut off is superior to an 18 day cut off in that bloodtesting can be done up to 7 days before the fight rather than 18 days before the fight.

thank you, come again.

You're a moron.

Unannounced testing on the fighters' end is 'random', period.

I want proof the USDA planned a near 3 week cutoff before the testing process btw.

I'll shut up if evidence is provided. Documentation stating when they were officially stopping tests before or during the testing phase.

I'll wait.

[Pullcounter]

typing a bunch of words and talking in circles dont make u look any lesser of an idiot. u repeat the same shyt the rest of u clowns say. continue and try to be cute. it keeps the masses entertained. sort of like the forum jester.

wow... the irony of this post!!!!

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

wow... the irony of this post!!!!

thats twice u have used Irony inappropriately to defend your weak arguments.
This shyt is in the history books lame. Any poster can look up your post history and see how pathetic and mindless u appear to be.