Fan asks Manny, "Are you gonna take the tests or what?" Manny responds....

[The Gambler1981]

No he wasnt.. The focus attention has moved on to different fighters, and there were hardly any threads for those 2 years. His comeback got attention though but that's because there was a definite plan to fight.

PED was talked about only in 2009. It was not part of the normal discussion in this forum. And if there was, it wasn't getting this much attention..

Ofcourse there will be changes if Floyd announce his next fight. What you talkin' about. The OST issue will escalate further, posters will bash Floyd's choice of next opponent as they do with Pac, etc. But at least there is merit because at least THE FIGHT will be very much a possibility.

'Coz right now, its only Pac who is getting the brunt of criticism because he is the guy who is actively fighting. Which is also a reason why more fighters are calling Pac more than Floyd. And more fights are being matched against Pac compared to Floyd. So dont tell me there wont be any changes.

There were tons of thread about Floyd while he was gone, I am sorry you are talking out your ass on that. I was here I remember.

The PED stuff you are right that didn't come up until the first negotiation, there were people who thought he was on something based on what people said but it wasn't like this until Manny refused. So I really don't feel sorry for him one bit this is his choice and the path he choose, he and his fans need to deal with it.

There won't be any changes, in my estimation people love to talk about Floyd and Manny to for that matter and how they relate to one another and that will not change anytime soon. To me what you are saying is what right now is, the level and who it favors might change a bit depending on what is going on at the moment but that is a good description of now.

[mikemurni]

There were tons of thread about Floyd while he was gone, I am sorry you are talking out your ass on that. I was here I remember.

The PED stuff you are right that didn't come up until the first negotiation, there were people who thought he was on something based on what people said but it wasn't like this until Manny refused. So I really don't feel sorry for him one bit this is his choice and the path he choose, he and his fans need to deal with it.

There won't be any changes, in my estimation people love to talk about Floyd and Manny to for that matter and how they relate to one another and that will not change anytime soon.

And I was here earlier than you. But maybe I made a mistake, there were discussion but hardly a mention of his name during that span. The focus were on the active fighters. Just like what is happening to Calzaghe, Hatton now.. There's hardly a discussion made regarding them..

The PED issue will not be an issue in making fights other than Floyd-Pac fight so if you feel sorry for Pac fans, you should feel sorry for Floyd fans even more because apparently this is what drove him out of the sport again. If it ain't at least this is the impression that most posters and media share alike. That Floyd is hiding behind the OST issue. It wont be so if he decides if he fights again though.

There will be changes because fans will be talkin about Floyd as an active fighter, and not as a side show.

[PrinceCharlez]

wfiebeater/mosley had an 18 day cut off.

Why do you keep saying they had an 18 day cut off? They subjected themselves to random testing leading up to the fight. They were tested a total of 7 times (Blood/ urine). They couldve had all 7 the week of the fight, or 2 a week for the first 3 weeks and 1 before the fight etc. Just so happened the OST tested them and stopped 18 days before the fight, but it wasnt to Floyd's or Mosley knowledge that they had stopped with the blood testing. The urine testing was still going on up until the fight but floyd and mosley were still ready to give blood in case they asked but they had no clue the blood testing was over.

So after the testing and fight was over, they said floyd had a cut off. There was no contract cut off. So you claiming that a 18 day cut off is worst then a 7 day cut off. Actually any KNOWN cut off is bad such as a seven day cut off. Floyds 18 was a RANDOM CUT OFF..

[The Gambler1981]

And I was here earlier than you. But maybe I made a mistake, there were discussion but hardly a mention of his name during that span. The focus were on the active fighters. Just like what is happening to Calzaghe, Hatton now.. There's hardly a discussion made regarding them..

The PED issue will not be an issue in making fights other than Floyd-Pac fight so if you feel sorry for Pac fans, you should feel sorry for Floyd fans even more because apparently this is what drove him out of the sport again. If it ain't at least this is the impression that most posters and media share alike. That Floyd is hiding behind the OST issue. It wont be so if he decides if he fights again though.

There will be changes because fans will be talkin about Floyd as an active fighter, and not as a side show.

I know I see that is why I can not believe what you are saying, Floyd had more thread about him than any other active fighter. That is really the only point I vigorously disagree because you could be right even if I disagree on the rest.

I just don't see people changing their views one way or the other at this point, I don't think Floyd can do anything to make those that really don't respect him respect him even if he fights Manny many will find a way to down play it (not all as some people will keep it real but I don't see a lot of that now and don't expect it in the future).

I could never have a good discussion about Floyd on this board in my whole time here it always turns into something ******. What Floyd was doing had no effect on that at all i can tell you from experiance.

I am a fan of Floyd I don't feel sorry at all that is his choice and if it deprives him of his biggest fight that is his decision, most fans of Manny don't act like that though which is why I feel sorry.

[rambov]

Manny is taking people for a ride.

Still there is no need to ask those kind of questions. just pay ur respect and enjoy the show

[V.WEBB]

Manny is taking people for a ride.

Still there is no need to ask those kind of questions. just pay ur respect and enjoy the show

Yea, he sure is, a real ride. And they don't have the sense to question where the ride is going. This only confirms again what has been happening since late 2009. This fight isn't happening. And you can bet your bottom dollar, no "writer" will confront him or grill him about this.

[Ray*]

Is this recent?

[tesla_power]

Funny ass interview if recent. And a contradiction of the latest stance of 7days cutoff. But pretty much everything is a contradiction in boxing nowadays. It is all about the incentive of the respective parties in saying one thing or another.

Anyhow, don't really care much about pac-may until they at least get back on the negotiating table. Ost, weight penalty, money split, vacation, illiterate congressman, etc ... pretty much everything has already been played out. It is pretty much the media that drives everything considering those 2 drawing power.

Nways, back to lurking and anticipating a possible FOTY candidate in the BW division.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Wow...............


Something is up. I thought Pac agreed to testing?

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

Wow...............


Something is up. I thought Pac agreed to testing?

U know damn well an 18 day cutoff is > 7 day cutoff. Wait........."let the commission decide but..........he is bigger than me......becuz my power is natural, belebe me.........since I dnt fight for the money but for the ppl and I already accepted all his demands".