Comments Thread For: Mosley Rips Mayweather For Not Fighting Pacquiao

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I'm just saying. The whole "Negotiations, what negotiations?" stuff from Mayweather's camp, that's enough for me to know those guys are shameless liars..

That's an official HBO report.... and that's credibility !!

I was gonna reply re: your assertion about the " second negotiation " .....

..... but that situation is pretty laughable now.

Some folks just believe every damn thing they are told..... fkn sheep.

If only an individual could " pay " to know the truth about a specific event or occurrance. Then again, it would have cost me a small fortune to get folks up to speed.

OK then dude, there was a second negotiation.

Even though there were no meetings, no talks, no discussions, no deals, no agreements, no mediation, NOTHING !! And 4 people who are absolutely critical to a deal being made categorically deny that it happened..... OK then, there really was a second negotiation

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I was gonna reply re: your assertion about the " second negotiation " .....

..... but that situation is pretty laughable now.

Some folks just believe every damn thing they are told..... fkn sheep.

If only an individual could " pay " to know the truth about a specific event or occurrance. Then again, it would have cost me a small fortune to get folks up to speed.

OK then dude, there was a second negotiation.

Even though there were no meetings, no talks, no discussions, no deals, no agreements, no mediation, NOTHING !! And 4 people who are absolutely critical to a deal being made categorically deny that it happened..... OK then, there really was a second negotiation

omfg are *****s stilll holding on to the "there were no negotiations" bull*****?

Some folks just believe every damn thing they are told..... fkn sheep.

greenberg clearly said he was mediating the negotations between arum and haymon.

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omfg are *****s stilll holding on to the "there were no negotiations" bull*****?

Some folks just believe every damn thing they are told..... fkn sheep.

greenberg clearly said he was mediating the negotations between arum and haymon.

hahaha.. you got the point. There's no reasonable discussion with this guys.
Know he's going to say "Greenberd is a criminal without credibility" or "Just because Greenberg said that, it means it's true ??"

We can only laugh !! hahahaha

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omfg are *****s stilll holding on to the "there were no negotiations" bull*****?

Some folks just believe every damn thing they are told..... fkn sheep.

greenberg clearly said he was mediating the negotations between arum and haymon.

Oh OK..... Greenburg said it LMAO

Even though Team Mayweather categorically stated in early May, that Floyd would not be fighting again in 2010, and that they would not be entering into any negotiations, period !!
http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/inde..._report_t.html

Even though 6 people, belonging to 3 completely different business organisations, each of those people having first-hand information - 4 of whom would be ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL to that fight being made - ALL, categorically stated that..... "there were no official negotiations" !!

Even though Bob Arum clearly lied about the " negotiations " .....

A "deadline" that Arum negotiated with GBP is about to expire.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29293

The next day, Arum is forced to admit he never even spoke with GBP....
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29324



You dopey sheep.....
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

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hahaha.. you got the point. There's no reasonable discussion with this guys.
Know he's going to say "Greenberd is a criminal without credibility" or "Just because Greenberg said that, it means it's true ??"

We can only laugh !! hahahaha

Hey fluffy, go get a haircut, you got wool in your eyes

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Only gullible kids believe Arum's bull****

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4...before-ellerbe

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hahaha.. you got the point. There's no reasonable discussion with this guys.
Know he's going to say "Greenberd is a criminal without credibility" or "Just because Greenberg said that, it means it's true ??"

We can only laugh !! hahahaha

I mean honestly you clown, take a look at yourself.

It is a joke that you still believe Bob Arum's " negotiation " stories.

And then you have the nerve, nay, you have the pig-ignorance to insinuate that other's are being "unreasonable"

Pig-ignorance, and walking around with your head up your arse, does not = credibility, dude.

Yea that's it man, you just keep on taking sweeties from dirty old men

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I mean honestly you clown, take a look at yourself.

It is a joke that you still believe Bob Arum's " negotiation " stories.

And then you have the nerve, nay, you have the pig-ignorance to insinuate that other's are being "unreasonable"

Pig-ignorance, and walking around with your head up your arse, does not = credibility, dude.

Yea that's it man, you just keep on taking sweeties from dirty old men

Ok *****....
Mayweather's are the face of credibility. Greenberg is just a liar....and the whole world who knew about the negotiation, and the final date....we're liars too...

hahahaha

Thank you god for the fomos... life is so funny with them.

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I don't know why Greenburg will lie at all. He has no reason tolie TBH. Who he talked to on Mayweather side might be up for questioning. How far the conversation went might be up for questioning.

But, at the end of the day there is really nothing to negotiate...They're so far apart that negotiating is useless. Floyd won't budge from his OST all the way up the fight stance. And, Pac won't budge with wanting a cutoff date...

Until one side changes their mind and are willing to concede, then there could be a discussion between the camps. Until that day though there is nothing to discuss or negotiate.

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I don't know why Greenburg will lie at all. He has no reason tolie TBH. Who he talked to on Mayweather side might be up for questioning. How far the conversation went might be up for questioning.

But, at the end of the day there is really nothing to negotiate...They're so far apart that negotiating is useless. Floyd won't budge from his OST all the way up the fight stance. And, Pac won't budge with wanting a cutoff date...

Until one side changes their mind and are willing to concede, then there could be a discussion between the camps. Until that day though there is nothing to discuss or negotiate.

Another well-balanced rational post, just stoppit willya

Jro, I stated the facts, and posted links to support them.....

There were no " negotiations ", period !!

Permit me to state my position, and then - because the Greenburg statement is the only "evidence" that even slightly supports Arum's scam - permit me to then also add a small supposition, just to offer a possible explanation as to what may have occurred.

My position is based on the point that these 3 facts cannot be ignored.....

1.) Team Mayweather categorically stated in early May, that Floyd would not be fighting again in 2010, and that they would not be entering into any negotiations, period !!
http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/inde..._report_t.html

2.) 6 people, belonging to 3 completely different business organisations, each of those people having first hand information - 4 of whom would be ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL to that fight being made - ALL, categorically stated that..... "there were no official negotiations" !!

3.) Bob Arum clearly lied about the " negotiations " .....

A " deadline " that Arum negotiated with GBP is about to expire.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29293

The next day, Arum is forced to admit he never even spoke with GBP....
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29324

The " deadline " .......... was a complete sham !!

4.) Uncle Bob has been pulling his **** for 40 years, it is a joke that EVERYBODY is standing there pointing at Arum screaming "liar liar" , and yet the good old gullible public STILL fall for his antics hook-line-and-sinker.

He is now officially..... the best in the book.

That was his picasso, he even put a " countdown timer " on the TR site

Arum e-mailed GBP a ****ty offer which, according to this first hand account from Michael Marley (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4...before-ellerbe) was even worse than the original proposal back in Dec 2009 that had already been rejected.

Arum then immediately slapped a two week deadline on the offer..... that's it!! No meetings, no talks, no discussions, no deals, no agreements, no mediation, NOTHING !!..... AND NO OFFER OF NEGOTIATION!!

Jro, does that sound even slightly similar to how the first negotiation went down? or come to mention it, does that sound even slightly similar to how ANY other successful negotiation has EVER gone down, to the best of your knowledge?

That sounds fkn absurd to me.

The first negotiation carried on for months, involved dozens of people, weeks of meetings and press releases, including an official mediation process that alone took days to complete.

Twice, Schaefer offered to take a lie detector test..... and Ellerbe flatly stated that either Greenburg or Arum were lying, and that "history shows who is telling the truth".

Arum's bull**** " deadline " expired on July 16th 2010, and the only "evidence" that even slightly supports Arum's scam is a very short, obscure, non-committal, nondescript statement that was issued by Ross Greenburg THE VERY NEXT DAY ON JULY 17TH 2010.

Arum lied about the deadline, it was a total fkn scam, there is absolutely no doubt about that..... so how the *** did errand-boy Greenburg manage to squeeze in an "official" negotiation in less than 24 hours?

Greenburg either lied, or he was suckered by Arum.

This is Ross Greenburg's statement, made during Arum's conference call on July 17th 2010..........

"Fights like Mayweather vs. Pacquiao are significant because of these fighters' ability to connect with sports fans around the world. It's unfortunate that it won't happen in 2010" Greenburg said in a statement. "I had been negotiating with a representative from each side since May 2nd, carefully trying to put the fight together. Hopefully, someday this fight will happen. Sports fans deserve it."
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=5412488

Here is the supposition, IMHO..... YOU may have nailed it !!

I don't know why Greenburg will lie at all.... How far the conversation went might be up for questioning.

I don't know why Greenburg will lie at all.....

I am not convinced that he did, even in spite of the significant evidence that points to the contrary, but I will stand by a post that I made last year.....

BTW bro, a lot of people know what's going on.....
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4...before-ellerbe

And, I bet that Ellerbe, Schaefer, and Haymon, have made sure that Greenburg is up to speed now as well.

Although, it is uncanny that a man in his position could find himself manipulated like that. Let's just assume that Greenburg knows a little more about the business of boxing than he did a few weeks ago, and leave it there. Otherwise, there will undoubtedly be "conspiracy theorist" accusations flying around the room

Then again, I assume that everybody here realises that Greenburg has just as much to gain from this as Arum? Neither HBO nor Top Rank have any control over Mayweather, and Manny is a money-making machine. Greenburg got "lucky", because now Manny can make him lots more money before he has to risk his marketability against Mayweather.

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