Comments Thread For: Arum Shreds De La Hoya, Schaefer: They are The Worst

[antrob]

Your time line is way out of line, he was much younger, still a junior Feather I believe just going or gone up to feather. I could be wrong, but it was years ago. Someone will know. After all this I believe that he went back to school, graduated and began to become a bit more erudite.

You're right. It was 2006, so he was 27 or 28. He was a full grown man not a young kid.

[antrob]

Your time line is way out of line, he was much younger, still a junior Feather I believe just going or gone up to feather. I could be wrong, but it was years ago. Someone will know. After all this I believe that he went back to school, graduated and began to become a bit more erudite.

From his Wiki Page

In September 2006, Pacquiao signed a major deal with Golden Boy Promotions (GBP), headed by Oscar de la Hoya, which was good for seven fights.[6] This development was confirmed by his coach Freddie Roach. Under the deal, Pacquiao was guaranteed a prize money of US$5 million for each fight.

I don't usually go the extra mile to prove nut huggers wrong, but I had to today.

[GRUSTLER]

Your time line is way out of line, he was much younger, still a junior Feather I believe just going or gone up to feather. I could be wrong, but it was years ago. Someone will know. After all this I believe that he went back to school, graduated and began to become a bit more erudite.

I think it happened in 2006. 5 years ago and Manny was 27. He should have known better.

[LeadUppercut]

arum just needs to die now....

Yep, waiting.....

[LeadUppercut]

This forum is unbelievable, as Arum just stated himself he's been a promoter for 50 years now. This is the guy who brought us all the fights when boxing was in its "Golden Era" with guys like Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Ali etc these were ALL Top Rank guys. And today, Arum is responsible for Manny, Cotto as well as Floyd Golden Boy is the one with all bark. Its apparent that Golden Boy needs Arum a hell of a lot more than Arum needs Golden Boy. Arum just got a deal with CBS, you DO NOT get a contract to show your events on National TV by being a "shady, piece of **** assh*le." He is a legit businessman who knows how to make a lot of money, promote and spread his product to the masses.

As for his lying comment I'm fine with it as just stated his a promoter which is nothing more than a salesman. He's just selling a fight not a car, and with all salesman they are going to stretch the truth such as the legitimacy of Mosley as an opponent. After the fight he may very well say that Mosley was old and washed up, but you don't ever say that until you get the money in your hand. If that is what people refer to as dirty fine, but by simply stating Mosley has a ton of experience, has a tough chin, and has a lot of power is a half truth more than a lie. He's just not telling you there is a ton of mileage on the odometer and it starts to overheat after 15-20 minutes of use. Its a horrible analogy but you get the idea, its simply business and Bob runs it to perfection as his pocket book would tell you.

Also what Arum is doing by not doing business with Golden Boy is nothing new to business either. I don't see Microsoft buying any Apple products or vice versa, you simply don't want your biggest rivals product on anything you produce. Golden Boy is just pissed that their biggest bread winners left are Khan and Alvarez, especially because Floyd isn't fighting (though he is a free agent) and now Mosley and Marquez jumped **** GBP isn't left with ****. They have two potential stars in Khan and Alvarez but they need the Top Rank fighters to become names. Bob is making a monopoly of boxing much like UFC has in MMA, but if all the guys are under one promotion they'll all end up fighting each other. Anyone hating on any of these circumstances is nothing more than a hater, Arum has potentially put boxing into a new "golden era" and its A LOT better than anything Golden Boy can put out.

Uh, no.....

Arum is a selfish deceitful lying old ****, and you are a gullible kid.

[chaos]

This is like Britney calling Paris an airhead.

[Rickyboy]

All hail the truth above this. Its like two pieces of crap that have come out the same mans Ahole at the same time,they then proceed to argue as to which of them smells more.

Essentially the headline could have read "pot calls kettle black"

[sapo#1]

The percentage that Golden Balls gets from Manny's fights is miniscule, less than 5%, and much less than the legal fees which would have accrued. It was all well reported at the time.

Manny, who spoke almost no English at that time, said he was worn out from the trip, that Oscar wouldn't let him go and he was too polite to insist, and agreed just to get away. It wasn't in a car but at a dinner that Oscar dragged Manny to, and again, was too polite to refuse. He was almost untutored in Western mores then and his culture taught him not to disagree with anyone. All well reported at the time.

In Manny's contract with Top Rank at that time, almost expired but NOT YET, was aclause forbidding him to discuss contracts or signing with anyone without Top Rank's permission, a smart move on Arum's [art, considering what could and did happen.

Anyone who actually knows anything of those times will verify my statements.

the actual percentage golden boy gets from manny pac is 7% not less than 5% but exactly 7%

i have a verified copy!!!! that shows the figures from the lawsuit with golden boy and top rank!!! it also shows that arum was hiding sposor money he got from tecate that he ows to golden boy!!!! i have the copies if you want to see them!!!

[komandante]

Dela Hoya and Scheafer are decendants of the snake from Adam and Eve. They just used cash instead of an apple.

[Left Hook Tua]

oh arum bites, and he bites hard.

Ask HBO.

yup.

ask mgm grand too.

don't you think mgm could have used some pac fights and cotto fights when the las vegas casinos were experiencing some bad times?


uncle bob is like a mafia don.