Comments Thread For: Larry Merchant on The State of Mayweather vs. Pacquiao

[mikemurni]

not if Arum determines his fate by owning his ass with a contract. therefore he will do whatever arum says. i think he def took a dive. manny wasnt that overwhelming to make him clam up. manny threw all of those punches B/C clottey didnt throw by instruction. not the other way around. he took a dive for sure

A fight contract is submitted to NSAC for review before execution. I am sure if there is a clause for a fighter to take a dive, then it would have already been investigated considering that its also considered as public record, and can be secured by request from anyone.

Plus why would Arum, a Harvard Law graduate, would want an illegal act such as cheating, be on record in print via a contract, where it can be used against him. This is just funny..

[LeadUppercut]

you might not agree with this but, i really think clottey took a dive vs pac. my reason is as you state he is always a tough fight. vs pac he hardly even tried to fight. and when he threw a few punches he landed at will. but he didnt follow up and press the attack. he did not look like the j clottey we are used to seeing. and i dont attribute his lack of action to pacs offense. he just did not fight. that fight smelled very bad to me. i thought clottey would hand pac a loss. but he didnt try to fight he just covered up and threw a few punches and went back into his shell. that fight stunk, not due to pac but clottey not fighting. looked like greg louganis going for gold.

AGREED !!

There are four main reasons why I am convinced that fight was fixed.

[LMFAO]

not if Arum determines his fate by owning his ass with a contract. therefore he will do whatever arum says. i think he def took a dive. manny wasnt that overwhelming to make him clam up. manny threw all of those punches B/C clottey didnt throw by instruction. not the other way around. he took a dive for sure

Anyone would have to find it odd that out of Clottey's own mouth on the video interview after the fight with Pac he stated: "I had to lose that day". He didn't say "Pac was better than me. He said clearly "Manny is an ordinary fighter." If he admitted to just losing he would've said " I got beat by the better man not "I had to lose that day".

In house Bobfather cooking up that 'win' for his cash cow.

[mikemurni]

AGREED !!

There are four main reasons why I am convinced that fight was fixed.

Ofcourse you agree. Why am I not surprised.

[LeadUppercut]

bro ODLH quit in his stool in the 8th round...did u forget??? margo fought for full 12 rounds with a broken orbital...now tell me again who is tougher?

That is an absurd comparison.

1.) FACT: cheato has NEVER even approached Oscar's level

2.) prime vs prime, which is the only fair comparison, would be a totel mismatch. Margarito would be outclassed and brutalised.

3.) If you understand boxing, you would have to agree that it is a little dishonest to compare the Oscar that weighed 145 two weeks before the fight, 145 at the weigh-in, and 145 on fight night..... with ANYBODY

4.) Tough doesn't mean ****, this is boxing. Maidana was tougher than Khan, yet he didn't win.

[LeadUppercut]

not if Arum determines his fate by owning his ass with a contract. therefore he will do whatever arum says. i think he def took a dive. manny wasnt that overwhelming to make him clam up. manny threw all of those punches B/C clottey didnt throw by instruction. not the other way around. he took a dive for sure

I definitely agree, we watched the same fight.

Clottey's performance was inexplicable, and his excuses were simply bizarre.

[boxing guru]

AGREED !!

There are four main reasons why I am convinced that fight was fixed.

Larry is just upset they lost Pacquiao and he cant cover the fight

[led]

Totally agree. His fans are too ignorant to believe it. Fact is, Floyd is scared of Manny.

***Knights of Ako Pa Ha!***

Guys you are good poster. If you continue doing things like this then I think theres no difference between you and Gino Ros.

[GRUSTLER]

Ha !! Insouciant Verbiage !!!

You just met your match !!!

You LOSE !!!!!

My match! Ha ha ha ha! Funny! You can't even reply to my posts when I showed you that Pac ducked Mosley and picked a struggling Cotto instead. I have been noticing that some people on here want to sound like they know more than me to make them feel good. It's funny because they'll make up and bring up anything lil thing to sound smarter. Your no match for me and I think everyone would agree on that because instead of responding to my posts, with some substance you answer back "you met your match"?

Since you are soooo smart. Why don't you explain the quotes below about Pac ducking Mosley, since you haven't even tried to reply back to them posts. By the way, the post you said absolutely nothing on is true, so you win nothing.

Roach said that though a “Mosley fight is probably the most exciting because they both like to fight,” it's all about making the fight on even terms.

"I have to protect my fighter,” said Roach, who administered the terms for Pacquiao and Oscar De La Hoya last year. “I spoke to Shane and told him that we would fight him at 142. He said he can’t make that weight.”

Mosley asked why not 147, as Manny/Oscar was set at 147? Roach said that Mosley is not De La Hoya in terms of setting a weight handicap.

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/6822/freddie-roach-talks-mayweather-marquez-mosley-more/

"Shane came to the gym twice to ask me to let
him fight Manny, "Roach says. "I told him no both times, and both times for the same two reasons: First, there isn't enough money there, and second, you're too good a fighter.

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f53/fr...cquiao-1143464

"Shane called me earlier [Monday] and said that's it, he's had it," Shaefer said. "He's not waiting around anymore. He said, 'This guy [Pacquiao] is obviously scared of me. So let's move on.' Sugar Shane Mosley's career has not been built around Pacquiao. He already has a legacy of greatness. But eventually a Mayweather or Cotto or Pacquiao will need him. That day will come."

http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blo...pacquiao-dream

A blatant ducked. The difference between YOU and me is that, unlike YOU,
I don't use my opinion to make it a fact. I'm telling it like it is and how it
was and YOU don't, so at the end of the day, there is no way that you can
compete as long as you're living in denial. Martinez is the real deal to me,
so don't have nothing to do with me being down with Floyd because as a
true boxing fan, I know how to call a spade a spade.

[GRUSTLER]

well mike im sorry but we are going to have to agree to disagree. clottey hit pac at will and even though pac threw at lot of punches and clottey did his best impression of a heavy bag, he was never hurt, never in trouble. in fact pac looked the worst of the two. i enjoyed the back and forth peace!!!!!!

I believe there is a very good chance that Clottey threw the fight too because his excuses after the fight was ridiculous to say the least. I think that he had the style to either beat Pac or give him a much harder time than he did.