Comments Thread For: Wladimir Klitschko on David Haye's legacy: 'What legacy?'

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What makes Klitschko a ****?

klitshckos are ****,that is a little over the mark,you can get arrested for that stuff in Germany!.lol.

theres no proof either way to see they are or are not ****s.

but i dont think even they stoop that low tbh.

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klitshckos are ****,that is a little over the mark,you can get arrested for that stuff in Germany!.lol.

theres no proof either way to see they are or are not ****s.

but i dont think even they stoop that low tbh.

I like them as boxers but the only thing I don't like is the way they wave at the end of the fight.

Why do that if you can be arrested for that in Germany?

They cut their gloves off and they go to all four corners of the ring and do what looks like a **** salute and they blame it on the bandaging when asked.

No other boxers do this.

Not one.

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LOL. i duno,im not saying they are or are not,but a wierd dodgy wave alone isnt going to sway me beyond doubt that they are racists tbh.

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LOL. i duno,im not saying they are or are not,but a wierd dodgy wave alone isnt going to sway me beyond doubt that they are racists tbh.

Its not like a one off though.

Its the same at the end of every fight and they do it in all four corners. It just makes me suspiscious. They DO come out to Hell's Bells by AC/DC though. Thats a good thing, bit of an anti-**** anthem in Hamburg.

I haven't made a final decision on it myself becuase I think they deserve the credit as sportsmen but that IS why a lot of people think they're ****s.

I mean the **** party did settle in and recruit from Ukraine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichskommissariat_Ukraine

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no,as sportsmen,they get in shape,but they do not show desire to pay respect to the paying fans by trying thier most to be as potentially lethal and entertaining as they can be.

they do not act like gentleman they pretend to act like when it comes down to negotiations behind closed doors(many fighters all sing the same tune about the k bros dealings).

and they lie a lot,and get caught out for thier lies,even contradicting themselves and their managers contradicting them on tv and in trustworthy interviews such as epsn.com who do not have the need to lie,and infact favour klitschkos very much.

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As sportsmen they win by any means necessary. They use their advatages to the best of their ability. They neutralise their opponents and they may not be stylisitically entertaining but they are consistent winners and I think its Adam Booth who does most of the lieing in this group.

All David Hay has to do is turn up to the fight on April 30th and agee to the fight in principle and discussions for a signing can happen.

Wlad gets to honour his contract with Chisora and fight David Haye, but that contract can only be agreed publicly once Wlad has fought Chisora.

Haye vs Wlad would be style versus athleticism.

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you honestly find the klitschko fights entertaining?.

you find it ok that they have corpses infront if them,and dont go for knockouts?.

you find it cool that from round 1 onwards,their opponents style and mindset is of no challenge,and the k bros do not go for knockouts?.and do not give us more exciting combinations???.

Are you still yapping like a chihuahua on speed?

One big mistake you make: you talk about "them" like they are the same fighter. That's very lazy thinking.

They are not.

I'll admit that Wlad, since he's been with Manny, is sometimes too cautious --like in the Sultan fight -- but he was much better in his last outing when he chopped Peter down like a tree and stopped him with an uppercut. Hopefully he keeps improving on that.

Vitali, I honestly don't know what you are talking about. Vitali is a killer and always goes for the stoppage. And if you check his stats, he almost always gets it. Some fights it just doesn't happen, but he is always trying for it. I have never been bored by Vitali, only by a couple of his opponents, like Kevin Johnson.

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Vitali, I honestly don't know what you are talking about. Vitali is a killer and always goes for the stoppage. And if you check his stats, he almost always gets it. Some fights it just doesn't happen, but he is always trying for it. I have never been bored by Vitali, only by a couple of his opponents, like Kevin Johnson.

Good point

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certnalty booth switch and changes his mind over things and plays mind games.

but boente has been exposed for an outright lier.

he said they wanted to maximise revenues everywhere,did not go to german tv networks,did not want to fight on HBO,stated they would not go to hbo even if it offered the most for any potential fight they wanted.

he said mandatories for haye and vitali would not be a problem,clearly they are.

april 30th?,thats to close to khans fight date for sky to make that fight date possible.

there is no honour in wlad keeping his fight with chisora alive!.

i just do not think wlad wants to fight haye right now.

he made the chisora fight very close to the haye fight date that could have been.

then he makes the fight vs adamek,and vitali is the back up opponent,this has been stated on espn and ring mag websites.

by him making chisora and adamek fights,it stops haye fights being possible to happen!.

wlad has not fought 3 fights in a year since 2008,and 2002 i think before then.

he has not fought 2 fights,9 weeks or less to each other since about 2000 when he was about 25 years old,he will be 36 this year when he fights dereck chisora!.

and if he gets injured with a light workout,does he really think his body can handle 2,or even 3 fights so close together and so out of character for him to do so!.

possible injuries or even defeat can very likely stop haye fight happening!

promotion is lessened and he earns less money from fighting in the timescales he claims he will/would do.

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Are you still yapping like a chihuahua on speed?

One big mistake you make: you talk about "them" like they are the same fighter. That's very lazy thinking.

They are not.

I'll admit that Wlad, since he's been with Manny, is sometimes too cautious --like in the Sultan fight -- but he was much better in his last outing when he chopped Peter down like a tree and stopped him with an uppercut. Hopefully he keeps improving on that.

Vitali, I honestly don't know what you are talking about. Vitali is a killer and always goes for the stoppage. And if you check his stats, he almost always gets it. Some fights it just doesn't happen, but he is always trying for it. I have never been bored by Vitali, only by a couple of his opponents, like Kevin Johnson.

ive seen his fights,is somehow stayed awake to watch the anti climax of his actual fights.

his opponents have no threatening speed and or power,they have no ability to realistically defeat him,and he senses this early on,he is not ******,thats why he has his hands low and knows he is safe to fight like that.

he could and should very well be knocking these bums out early,mid rounds at very least.

maybe they both arent as good as them seem and have massive stamina problems?. but i do doubt thier heart and will to entertain the crowds,and fans beyond germany.