Comments Thread For: Wladimir Klitschko on David Haye's legacy: 'What legacy?'

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certnalty booth switch and changes his mind over things and plays mind games.

but boente has been exposed for an outright lier.

he said they wanted to maximise revenues everywhere,did not go to german tv networks,did not want to fight on HBO,stated they would not go to hbo even if it offered the most for any potential fight they wanted.

He's a boxing promoter, they are in the family of the lizard people

he said mandatories for haye and vitali would not be a problem,clearly they are.

They are not, if theres a unification bout on the table the fight can be fixed but the fight has to be legally with a beltholder not someone who is putting the belt on the table on April 30th

april 30th?,thats to close to khans fight date for sky to make that fight date possible.
there is no honour in wlad keeping his fight with chisora alive!.
i just do not think wlad wants to fight haye right now.
he made the chisora fight very close to the haye fight date that could have been.

The date of Wlad Chisora? There is plenty of honour in ACTUALLY being injured and then keeping a contract with a guy, if you are a champ you are being honest and trustworthy. Wlad will fight him and the date are close for an important reason imo.

then he makes the fight vs adamek,and vitali is the back up opponent,this has been stated on espn and ring mag websites.

by him making chisora and adamek fights,it stops haye fights being possible to happen!.

no it doesn't July is still open and Vitali can take that fixture. Adamek wants a title shot and deserves it.

wlad has not fought 3 fights in a year since 2008,and 2002 i think before then.

Thats only 2 years ago.

he has not fought 2 fights,9 weeks or less to each other since about 2000 when he was about 25 years old,he will be 36 this year when he fights dereck chisora!.

and if he gets injured with a light workout,does he really think his body can handle 2,or even 3 fights so close together and so out of character for him to do so!.

possible injuries or even defeat can very likely stop haye fight happening!

promotion is lessened and he earns less money from fighting in the timescales he claims he will/would do.

Never mind I will wait until after Wlad Chisora, after that I will finally state whether or not Haye is a complete liar and coward with an idiot for a manager.

I still believe the fight will be signed.

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Haye's weak resume:

- blatantly ducked the Klitschkos and every other top HW.

- got knocked down and badly hurt by old shot glass chinned Barrett, who was coming off a 2nd round KO loss to tomato can Cliff Couser.

- struggled and lost rounds to 40 year old shot to pieces Ruiz, who was landing SLOW JABS AT WILL and slow right hands on the defenceless vulnerable Haye. Haye was stunned, hurt and the ropes saved him from getting knocked down. He should've been disqualified for excessive illegal rabbit punches.

- looked awful against 40 year old tomato can bum Fraudley, who didn't even throw a single punch and took a dive. Fraudley should've retired 4 years ago after he got brutally KTFO in 3 rounds by journeyman Sprott. Sprott did better against Fraudley than Haye did lol.

- ran like a scared little girl from old slow Valuev the whole fight and set the all time record for fewest punches thown in a 12 round fight. Haye onlty threw 143 punches in 12 rounds...PATHETIC. That was a boring, unwatchable, awful, cowardly, pathetic performance by that pussy Haye. Valuev got robbed. Even the biased British commentators had Valuev winning the fight. Even Grandpa Holyfield did much better against Valuev than Haye did.

Wlad destroyed the REAL WBA HW Champ undefeated Ruslan Chagaev, who clearly beat Prime Valuev in impressive fashion.

Haye is the definition of a paper champion

Wlad is the rightful WBA Heavyweight Champ.

- Valuev-Haye was the worst/most boring fight of 2009.

- Fraudley-Haye was the worst/most boring fight of 2010.

- Haye was never "undisputed" CW champ. He partially unified by beating two weak title holders....glass chinned bum Maccarinelli, who has been KTFO by Lebedev, Frenkel, Afolabi and Swaby....and old shot midget Mormeck, who was coming off a KO loss to O'Neil Bell. Haye never made a title defence and he ducked all of the best cruiserweights (Adamek, Cunningham, etc)

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Never a good idea to run down a (hopefully) future opponent's resume. Getting a little board with this whole he said/she said soap opera TBH.

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He's a boxing promoter, they are in the family of the lizard people

true,spose they are in that like.


They are not, if theres a unification bout on the table the fight can be fixed but the fight has to be legally with a beltholder not someone who is putting the belt on the table on April 30th

no,the april date is not possible for sky sports to buy. but july would be if wlad didnt make his chisora fight and the potential haye fight so close together.

or if haye somehow doesnt have a mandatory and vitali wins and can fight for july 2nd.


The date of Wlad Chisora? There is plenty of honour in ACTUALLY being injured and then keeping a contract with a guy, if you are a champ you are being honest and trustworthy. Wlad will fight him and the date are close for an important reason imo.

there is no honour in agreeing to fight a 14 fight novice then hype the fight and look down upon people to think they will believe the lies wlad spits out.

no it doesn't July is still open and Vitali can take that fixture. Adamek wants a title shot and deserves it.




Thats only 2 years ago.



Never mind I will wait until after Wlad Chisora, after that I will finally state whether or not Haye is a complete liar and coward with an idiot for a manager.

I still believe the fight will be signed.

i do think vitali v haye can be made for july if both have enough time to prepare and are fit and able.

or if haye and vitali both win thier mandatories they can face each other on late october possibly,also depending on how each one wins and comes out of the fight.

wele see i guess,haye is to blame for 2009 and some things,but hes not fully at fault for all this mess,that is for sure. tv networks and klitschkos must shoulder some blame.

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wele see i guess,haye is to blame for 2009 and some things,but hes not fully at fault for all this mess,that is for sure. tv networks and klitschkos must shoulder some blame.

I am sure both boxers want the fight see:





and the main thing holding this back is idiots like this guy:

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Haye's weak resume:

- blatantly ducked the Klitschkos and every other top HW.

- got knocked down and badly hurt by old shot glass chinned Barrett, who was coming off a 2nd round KO loss to tomato can Cliff Couser.

- struggled and lost rounds to 40 year old shot to pieces Ruiz, who was landing SLOW JABS AT WILL and slow right hands on the defenceless vulnerable Haye. Haye was stunned, hurt and the ropes saved him from getting knocked down. He should've been disqualified for excessive illegal rabbit punches.

- looked awful against 40 year old tomato can bum Fraudley, who didn't even throw a single punch and took a dive. Fraudley should've retired 4 years ago after he got brutally KTFO in 3 rounds by journeyman Sprott. Sprott did better against Fraudley than Haye did lol.

- ran like a scared little girl from old slow Valuev the whole fight and set the all time record for fewest punches thown in a 12 round fight. Haye onlty threw 143 punches in 12 rounds...PATHETIC. That was a boring, unwatchable, awful, cowardly, pathetic performance by that pussy Haye. Valuev got robbed. Even the biased British commentators had Valuev winning the fight. Even Grandpa Holyfield did much better against Valuev than Haye did.

Wlad destroyed the REAL WBA HW Champ undefeated Ruslan Chagaev, who clearly beat Prime Valuev in impressive fashion.

Haye is the definition of a paper champion

Wlad is the rightful WBA Heavyweight Champ.

- Valuev-Haye was the worst/most boring fight of 2009.

- Fraudley-Haye was the worst/most boring fight of 2010.

- Haye was never "undisputed" CW champ. He partially unified by beating two weak title holders....glass chinned bum Maccarinelli, who has been KTFO by Lebedev, Frenkel, Afolabi and Swaby....and old shot midget Mormeck, who was coming off a KO loss to O'Neil Bell. Haye never made a title defence and he ducked all of the best cruiserweights (Adamek, Cunningham, etc)

this is comedic gold,youre called "steelhammer 2011".

you are so blatently biased you cant be taken serious.

i do run down klitschko opponents of late,but not thier difficulty to fight cuz they fight so scared and cautious and are so big and powerful.

but any great heavyweight would defeat them tbh.

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I am sure both boxers want the fight see:





and the main thing holding this back is idiots like this guy:

talking is good,and reliable to certain extents.

but actions speak much louder.

who has thier time filled up right now?. wladimir!.

who does not- haye!.

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Wladimir Klitschko's impressive resume:

- ATG and HOF

- Most dominant fighter in the world

- Has cleaned out the HW division

- IBF/WBO/IBO/RING Unified Heavyweight Champion Of The World

- Rightful WBA Heavyweight Champ

- Olympic Gold Medalist

- 49 KOs in 55 wins

- Has made 16 dominant world title defences

- Has defeated 8 world heavyweight champions:

Chris Byrd I (31-1)
Chris Byrd II (39-2)
Samuel Peter I (24-0)
Samuel Peter II (34-3)
Ruslan Chagaev (25-0)
Sultan Ibragimov (22-0)
Lamon Brewster (33-3)
Hasim Rahman (45-5)
Francois Botha (44-3)
Ray Mercer (30-4)

- Has defeated tons of top contenders:

Eddie Chambers (35-1)
Calvin Brock (29-0)
Tony Thompson (31-1)
Jameel McCline (28-2)
Monte Barrett (23-0)
Ray Austin (24-3)
DaVarryl Williamson (20-2)
Axel Schulz (26-3)
Derrick Jefferson (23-2)
Charles Shufford (17-1)
Eliseo Castillo (18-0)
etc.....

- Has defeated 8 undefeated fighters:

Ruslan Chagaev (25-0)
Sultan Ibragimov (22-0)
Samuel Peter (24-0)
Calvin Brock (29-0)
Monte Barrett (23-0)
Eliseo Castillo (18-0)
Zoran Vujecic (14-0)
Najee Shaheed (16-0)

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this is comedic gold,youre called "steelhammer 2011".

you are so blatently biased you cant be taken serious.
i do run down klitschko opponents of late,but not thier difficulty to fight cuz they fight so scared and cautious and are so big and powerful.

but any great heavyweight would defeat them tbh.

That's hilarious coming from you. You can't even separate the brothers and try to pretend they fight exactly the same way. Probably because you haven't even watched their actual fights and just want to hate on them because you're in love with David Gaye.

Which means your uniformed opinion isn't worth a hill of beans.

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Good point

Thanks. I enjoy watching both Wlad and Vitali fight, but I've always said Vitali is my fave of the two. Just personal taste. To me, he has more of the fighter's mentality, while Wlad is a very talented athlete who is a lot nicer guy than his meaner older brother.

That's probably because Vitali had to pave the way for the brothers, while Wlad was able to follow in his footsteps. Vitali had to be tougher.