Comments Thread For: Wladimir Klitschko on David Haye's legacy: 'What legacy?'

[dvb]

That's hilarious coming from you. You can't even separate the brothers and try to pretend they fight exactly the same way. Probably because you haven't even watched their actual fights and just want to hate on them because you're in love with David Gaye.

Which means your uniformed opinion isn't worth a hill of beans.

o,its little child with lame insults again,o hello.

i have clearly stated vitali is better,tougher.

that vitali is not as bad.

ha,you so wrong,ive watched them a fair few times in hope that they get exciting.but no,its a snooze fest cure for insomnia every time,dont worry,i like the German public dont waste money watching them!.

no,i hate on them because they are so dissapointing and so hateable.

i think if you learn how to read things properly you will find i have criticism for haye,unlike how you barely criticise anything wlad or vitali do,especially wlad,he is the worst one.

your move boy.

[P4P Opinion]

Those in glass houses Wladimir, those in glass houses...

[dvb]

Thanks. I enjoy watching both Wlad and Vitali fight, but I've always said Vitali is my fave of the two. Just personal taste. To me, he has more of the fighter's mentality, while Wlad is a very talented athlete who is a lot nicer guy than his meaner older brother.

That's probably because Vitali had to pave the way for the brothers, while Wlad was able to follow in his footsteps. Vitali had to be tougher.

what is to enjoy about powful men draggin over matched opponents to late rounds and ending of fights?.

what is enjoyable about limited combinations?.

wlad has a very good left hook,but i barely see it being used enough!.

vitali has more heart and is tougher,more active,but he looks slower and very un cordinated,with wider less sharp punches.

he can atleast say he fought a version of lewis,and put up a good fight.

and he has never been knocked down or out.

[Steelhammer2011]

Wladimir Klitschko's impressive resume:

- ATG and HOF

- Most dominant fighter in the world

- Has cleaned out the HW division

- IBF/WBO/IBO/RING Unified Heavyweight Champion Of The World

- Rightful WBA Heavyweight Champ

- Olympic Gold Medalist

- 49 KOs in 55 wins

- Has made 16 dominant world title defences

- Has defeated 8 world heavyweight champions:

Chris Byrd I (31-1)
Chris Byrd II (39-2)
Samuel Peter I (24-0)
Samuel Peter II (34-3)
Ruslan Chagaev (25-0)
Sultan Ibragimov (22-0)
Lamon Brewster (33-3)
Hasim Rahman (45-5)
Francois Botha (44-3)
Ray Mercer (30-4)

- Has defeated tons of top contenders:

Eddie Chambers (35-1)
Calvin Brock (29-0)
Tony Thompson (31-1)
Jameel McCline (28-2)
Monte Barrett (23-0)
Ray Austin (24-3)
DaVarryl Williamson (20-2)
Axel Schulz (26-3)
Derrick Jefferson (23-2)
Charles Shufford (17-1)
Eliseo Castillo (18-0)
etc.....

- Has defeated 8 undefeated fighters:

Ruslan Chagaev (25-0)
Sultan Ibragimov (22-0)
Samuel Peter (24-0)
Calvin Brock (29-0)
Monte Barrett (23-0)
Eliseo Castillo (18-0)
Zoran Vujecic (14-0)
Najee Shaheed (16-0)

Haye's weak resume:

- blatantly ducked the Klitschkos and every other top HW.

- got knocked down and badly hurt by old shot glass chinned Barrett, who was coming off a 2nd round KO loss to tomato can Cliff Couser.

- struggled and lost rounds to 40 year old shot to pieces Ruiz, who was landing SLOW JABS AT WILL and slow right hands on the defenceless vulnerable Haye. Haye was stunned, hurt and the ropes saved him from getting knocked down. He should've been disqualified for excessive illegal rabbit punches.

- looked awful against 40 year old tomato can bum Fraudley, who didn't even throw a single punch and took a dive. Fraudley should've retired 4 years ago after he got brutally KTFO in 3 rounds by journeyman Sprott. Sprott did better against Fraudley than Haye did lol.

- ran like a scared little girl from old slow Valuev the whole fight and set the all time record for fewest punches thown in a 12 round fight. Haye onlty threw 143 punches in 12 rounds...PATHETIC. That was a boring, unwatchable, awful, cowardly, pathetic performance by that pussy Haye. Valuev got robbed. Even the biased British commentators had Valuev winning the fight. Even Grandpa Holyfield did much better against Valuev than Haye did.

Wlad destroyed the REAL WBA HW Champ undefeated Ruslan Chagaev, who clearly beat Prime Valuev in impressive fashion.

Haye is the definition of a paper champion

Wlad is the rightful WBA Heavyweight Champ.

- Valuev-Haye was the worst/most boring fight of 2009.

- Fraudley-Haye was the worst/most boring fight of 2010.

- Haye was never "undisputed" CW champ. He partially unified by beating two weak title holders....glass chinned bum Maccarinelli, who has been KTFO by Lebedev, Frenkel, Afolabi and Swaby....and old shot midget Mormeck, who was coming off a KO loss to O'Neil Bell. Haye never made a title defence and he ducked all of the best cruiserweights (Adamek, Cunningham, etc)

Wlad's impressive resume is 1,000,000,000,000 times better than Haye's weak resume.

Check out my thread/poll "Who is/was the worst heavyweight title holder of all time?"

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=457553

Haye has a commanding lead in the poll

[dvb]

i dont care what a bunch of haters say on an online poll,that probalby doesnt even fit into a towns worth of people. hardly a conclusive and accurate picture of heavyweights populairty.

got knocked down and badly hurt by old shot glass chinned Barrett, who was coming off a 2nd round KO loss to tomato can Cliff Couser.

ha,what,this is the mythical supposed real knockdown!.

- struggled and lost rounds to 40 year old shot to pieces Ruiz, who was landing SLOW JABS AT WILL and slow right hands on the defenceless vulnerable Haye. Haye was stunned, hurt and the ropes saved him from getting knocked down. He should've been disqualified for excessive illegal rabbit punches.

he had 4 weeks without sparring,and beat the crap into him and retired him you idiot.
stunned,hahahahahaha.omg. desperate you are.ha ile think you find ruiz clinches and moves into them by having his head shown to haye.



- looked awful against 40 year old tomato can bum Fraudley, who didn't even throw a single punch and took a dive. Fraudley should've retired 4 years ago after he got brutally KTFO in 3 rounds by journeyman Sprott. Sprott did better against Fraudley than Haye did lol.

he bet on the 3rd round,and knocked him out in 3 with 1 punch landed!.

you wish wlad could be that dominant and confident!.

- ran like a scared little girl from old slow Valuev the whole fight and set the all time record for fewest punches thown in a 12 round fight. Haye onlty threw 143 punches in 12 rounds...PATHETIC. That was a boring, unwatchable, awful, cowardly, pathetic performance by that ***** Haye. Valuev got robbed. Even the biased British commentators had Valuev winning the fight. Even Grandpa Holyfield did much better against Valuev than Haye did.

o you mean outboxed him with a broken right hand and stunned him to do the wobbly legs dance still?.

Wlad destroyed the REAL WBA HW Champ undefeated Ruslan Chagaev, who clearly beat Prime Valuev in impressive fashion.

chageav is nothing of a great threat to any half decent champion.

Haye is the definition of a paper champion

Wlad is the rightful WBA Heavyweight Champ.

wlad is coward.

- Valuev-Haye was the worst/most boring fight of 2009.
not at all,any wlad fight is a stinker.

- Fraudley-Haye was the worst/most boring fight of 2010.

i think briggs v vitali wins that one,a past it bum beaten up boringly.

- Haye was never "undisputed" CW champ. He partially unified by beating two weak title holders....glass chinned bum Maccarinelli, who has been KTFO by Lebedev, Frenkel, Afolabi and Swaby....and old shot midget Mormeck, who was coming off a KO loss to O'Neil Bell. Haye never made a title defence and he ducked all of the best cruiserweights (Adamek, Cunningham, etc)

haha,youy talk about the knockouts enzo had after haye ruined him,what a fool you are!.

swaby was the only one to ko enzo,and that was ealry on in his career.

old and shot?,lol you mean tough and many years holding titlist in his own backyard!.

those cruisers are nothing special,anyone who isnt a biased ***** like you knows haye beats all at cruiser.

he won 2 belts weight drained,hence his move up to heavyweight.

your bias is laughable,cheers for keeping on posting,im getting some good laughs.

i dont claim haye to be atg or anything,but hes not as bad as you state.

and wlad and vitali are not as great as you think,their legends in your k bro lovin mind only mate.

[dvb]

the heavyweight divsion is awful,you try to big up wlad by his opponents,who even the best of the worst bunch would not get into any hall of fames or top heavyweight lists.

and dont kid yourself,wlad,hof atg? i doubt it!.

[ChopperRead]

Wladimir Klitschko's impressive resume:

- ATG and HOF

- Most dominant fighter in the world

- Has cleaned out the HW division

- IBF/WBO/IBO/RING Unified Heavyweight Champion Of The World

- Rightful WBA Heavyweight Champ

- Olympic Gold Medalist

- 49 KOs in 55 wins

- Has made 16 dominant world title defences

- Has defeated 8 world heavyweight champions:

Chris Byrd I (31-1)
Chris Byrd II (39-2)
Samuel Peter I (24-0)
Samuel Peter II (34-3)
Ruslan Chagaev (25-0)
Sultan Ibragimov (22-0)
Lamon Brewster (33-3)
Hasim Rahman (45-5)
Francois Botha (44-3)
Ray Mercer (30-4)

- Has defeated tons of top contenders:

Eddie Chambers (35-1)
Calvin Brock (29-0)
Tony Thompson (31-1)
Jameel McCline (28-2)
Monte Barrett (23-0)
Ray Austin (24-3)
DaVarryl Williamson (20-2)
Axel Schulz (26-3)
Derrick Jefferson (23-2)
Charles Shufford (17-1)
Eliseo Castillo (18-0)
etc.....

- Has defeated 8 undefeated fighters:

Ruslan Chagaev (25-0)
Sultan Ibragimov (22-0)
Samuel Peter (24-0)
Calvin Brock (29-0)
Monte Barrett (23-0)
Eliseo Castillo (18-0)
Zoran Vujecic (14-0)
Najee Shaheed (16-0)

Very impressive: only a vile hater would say otherwise.

And Wlad is far from done: he can just keep adding to amazing numbers he already has.

[dvb]

Very impressive: only a vile hater would say otherwise.

And Wlad is far from done: he can just keep adding to amazing numbers he already has.

LOL,you boys make me chuckle,your blind bias for klitschkos is some funny joke.

i am atleast fair in praise and criticism for haye,and even some praise for klitschkos.

[武士道]

Haye has no legacy at HW and to my eyes his CW exploits aren't that notable either. Yet, he's still the best fight 'available' for either Klitschko.

How it took 11 pages to reach this....

[ChopperRead]

the heavyweight divsion is awful,you try to big up wlad by his opponents,who even the best of the worst bunch would not get into any hall of fames or top heavyweight lists.

and dont kid yourself,wlad,hof atg? i doubt it!.

Too bad your opinion won't count.

You want to put a wager on the HOF thing?