Comments Thread For: Wladimir Klitschko on David Haye's legacy: 'What legacy?'

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  • dvb
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    #141
    Originally posted by cklmaced
    He could have just been disappointed he lost. While you state opinion I state facts, most experts think Haye is the only credible opponent for the Klit bros and why do Haye threads get the most responses I don't see anybody else talking about any other HW bar maybe Adamak.
    the only other person to mess ruiz up was tua,and that was early in ruiz's career.

    roy jones was the only one to outbox him completely and show him up loads.


    no one talks much about adamek,and his below par heavyweight opponents(bar arreola,who caught him and had him wobbled!)

    maybe the klitschko fans talk so much about haye,cuz they feel threatened by him??

    ,so they down play him.but infact by them doing this,if haye beats either one,it makes klits look even worse,or if klits beat haye,its not a big win as everyone claimed haye and his career was rubbish and haye was not hard to fight!!!.

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    • cklmaced
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      #142
      Originally posted by dvb
      the only other person to mess ruiz up was tua,and that was early in ruiz's career.

      roy jones was the only one to outbox him completely and show him up loads.


      no one talks much about adamek,and his below par heavyweight opponents(bar arreola,who caught him and had him wobbled!)

      maybe the klitschko fans talk so much about haye,cuz they feel threatened by him??

      ,so they down play him.but infact by them doing this,if haye beats either one,it makes klits look even worse,or if klits beat haye,its not a big win as everyone claimed haye and his career was rubbish and haye was not hard to fight!!!.
      Yeah I just saw the Solis thread where they are all calling him a fat punching bag. So when VK beats him it will prove how great he is and is a future HOF LOL. They don't realise you can't bash their opponents and then claim they are great after they have won I mean which is it. Are they fat punching bags or one of the best HWs in the world?

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      • ChopperRead
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        #143
        Originally posted by cklmaced
        Yeah I just saw the Solis thread where they are all calling him a fat punching bag. So when VK beats him it will prove how great he is and is a future HOF LOL. They don't realise you can't bash their opponents and then claim they are great after they have won I mean which is it. Are they fat punching bags or one of the best HWs in the world?
        It works both ways: I used to hear from haters how Sam Peter, Calvin Brock, Juan Carlos Gomez, etc., were going to DESTROY a Klitschko, then when it didn't happen, they were immediately called tomato cans.

        Vitali has to fight Solis: he's a mandatory. He's just doing his job.

        After watching the Austin fight, I'm not going to pretend to be impressed by Solis.

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          #144
          Originally posted by cklmaced
          Yeah I just saw the Solis thread where they are all calling him a fat punching bag. So when VK beats him it will prove how great he is and is a future HOF LOL. They don't realise you can't bash their opponents and then claim they are great after they have won I mean which is it. Are they fat punching bags or one of the best HWs in the world?
          lol,see i dont like who haye fights but i understand it.

          barrett,good tune up.exciting fight.

          valuev-for a title-big bargaining tool and unifcation helps everyone involved.

          ruiz-mandatory-experienced,last chance saloon so dangerous in a sense,had diaz as new trainer-refreshed so wary of him,tough,only been stopped once.
          but was older admittedly.

          fraudley-wasnt happy with this fight,haye did admit this was NOT a legacy fight,but was massive british fight that gave haye new fans and populairty to house hold name,he said on live tv,it would be like a gangr*pe,he did not lie!.,he even had the balls to bet on when he would win by KO.

          i would have preferred he bet for round 1 tbh.

          he did everything this time round for the wlad fight!.

          wlad did nothing to make it happen!.

          if haye fights mormeck he deserves lampooning in the street,especially if he does retire this year.

          the retirment plan is b/s,no one retires early without goals achieved.

          to beat vitali would suffice.he is the one tougher to beat.

          haye hasnt had many fight,no wars,little punishment,still fresh enough,relfexes,speed,power is all there,and no roy jj like messing about with weight will be done.

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          • dvb
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            #145
            Originally posted by ChopperRead
            It works both ways: I used to hear from haters how Sam Peter, Calvin Brock, Juan Carlos Gomez, etc., were going to DESTROY a Klitschko, then when it didn't happen, they were immediately called tomato cans.

            Vitali has to fight Solis: he's a mandatory. He's just doing his job.

            After watching the Austin fight, I'm not going to pretend to be impressed by Solis.

            you can check all my posts,i did never state fraudley as a good opponent.

            never hyped up anyone to beat klitschko without doubt.

            admitted that thier opponents will not beat them,chisora,solis,briggs,sosnowski ect,they all had such little chance of winning.

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            • Steelhammer2011
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              #146
              Originally posted by Steelhammer2011
              Byrd is better than anyone Haye has fought.

              Peter is better than anyone Haye has fought.

              Ibragimov is better than anyone Haye has fought.

              Chagaev is better than anyone Haye has fought.

              Chambers is better than anyone Haye has fought.

              Brewster is better than anyone Haye has fought.

              Mercer is better than anyone Haye has fought.

              Rahman is better than anyone Haye has fought.

              Thompson is better than anyone Haye has fought.

              Brock is better than anyone Haye has fought.

              McCline is better than anyone Haye has fought.
              Originally posted by cklmaced
              Really Ruiz has beat Rahman and McCline and barely lost to Chagaev so again your wrong.
              Chagaev clearly beat Ruiz.

              McCline-Ruiz was a close fight, they were both shot. Prime For Prime...McCline beats Ruiz

              Wlad destroyed the best version of McCline in 2002.

              McCline was in his prime, he was the best American contender at the time, and was coming off impressive wins over Michael Grant (1st round KO), Shannon Briggs and Lance Whitaker.

              Rahman-Ruiz was a close fight, Ruiz should've been disqualified for excessive clinching.

              The Lewis conquerer Rahman is a big puncher and a much more dangerous opponent than 40 year old feather fisted shot Ruiz.

              2002 McCline >>> 2010 Ruiz

              2008 Rahman >>> 2010 Ruiz
              Last edited by Steelhammer2011; 02-07-2011, 10:58 PM.

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              • cklmaced
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                #147
                Originally posted by Steelhammer2011
                McCline-Ruiz was a close fight, they were both shot. Prime For Prime...McCline beats Ruiz

                Wlad destroyed the best version of McCline in 2002.

                McCline was in his prime, he was the best American contender at the time, and was coming off impressive wins over Michael Grant (1st round KO), Shannon Briggs and Lance Whitaker.

                Rahman-Ruiz was a close fight, Ruiz should've been disqualified for excessive clinching.

                The Lewis conquerer Rahman is a big puncher and a much more dangerous opponent than 40 year old feather fisted shot Ruiz.

                2002 McCline >>> 2010 Ruiz

                2008 Rahman >>> 2010 Ruiz
                Your clearly a biased moron who will try spin anything even Thompson himself said Haye would beat him so spin that clown.

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                • dvb
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by cklmaced
                  Your clearly a biased moron who will try spin anything even Thompson himself said Haye would beat him so spin that clown.
                  yep,the klitscko fans like the k bros,are so full of lies and hype,perceptions,exageration,blame game.

                  the proof is there to prove klits fans wrong and they still try deny it!.

                  even haye fans like me do not accept some the **** haye does/has done.

                  but hes not the awful coward he is portrayed.

                  funny that haye haters talk more about haye than they do about the klitschkos!.

                  even ignore klitschkos possible faults,and only focus on,hype up haye's faults and "faults".

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                  • jknightx
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by cklmaced
                    Tell me how often Wlad has fought within 9 weeks since becoming champ. I can save you the effort none.
                    Wlad avarage fight is 2 per year the past 5 years,but in 2009 Wlad only fought once becuase he wasted most of the year nogatiating with Haye only for Haye to pull out,so at least one of those years he had to hve fought 3 times to average 2 a year.basic math.

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                    • cklmaced
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by jknightx
                      Wlad avarage fight is 2 per year the past 5 years,but in 2009 Wlad only fought once becuase he wasted most of the year nogatiating with Haye only for Haye to pull out,so at least one of those years he had to hve fought 3 times to average 2 a year.basic math.
                      Yet your math couldn't find a gap where he fought within 9 weeks.

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