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Mayweather vs. Cotto post fight Thread -DON'T make new threads about the fight
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Originally posted by Dunks View Postmen lie, women lie and #'s dont.,...yes Cotto did ok early on in a sense but he didnt dominate those rds, he did enough to make them close but he didnt do anything impressive and he was knocked down 2 times in the first 4 rounds....im not impressed by that....
I never said you had to be impressed.
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Originally posted by Boxer1590 View PostNo...#s are used to manipulate. Especially in the sport of boxing where anything besides a jab is considered a power punch & where there is such a variation of punches being thrown at different velocities and with different power.
I never said you had to be impressed.
so what rounds did Cotto decisively win?...
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostHe won a feeling out round.
Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostCotto didn't dominate that round. Nor is it a clear Cotto round. Manny did as much as Cotto did. 10-8 round for Pac.
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Another 10-8 round for Pac.
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A competitive round that could have gone either way. I will give it to Cotto. But, giving it to Pac is not a crime.
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People try to make it out that Cotto had more success than he actually. And, their excuse is saying "I don't remember" funny remember only the first half and not the 2nd. But, why is that? Maybe because, they didn't see the fight and go by what others say about it? Like Oscar stopped throwing the jab in the 2nd half against Floyd. It would help to actually watch fight. Maybe even more than once.
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Yes because an obviously weakened weight-drained fighter is the same a natural strong WW.
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Originally posted by Dunks View Post
so what rounds did Cotto decisively win?...
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Originally posted by akScoundrel View PostBecause pac just gives out feeling out rounds right. Maybe ricky hatton wants to chime in on this one.
Originally posted by akScoundrel View PostI never said he dominated. It was a back and forth round, with manny winning because of the knockdown in the beginning.
Originally posted by akScoundrel View PostSo you disagree that cotto was winning the fourth until the knockdown?
Originally posted by akScoundrel View PostNah, it was cottos round.
Originally posted by akScoundrel View PostIve seen the fight more times than i can remember, as i stated before **** was going downhill quick for cotto after the 4th, yet he still won the fifth. all in all, through the course of the night, he got his ass murked. Your comment is irrelevant, and judging by how yo uhave judged the first half of the fight, im questioning whether or nto you have actually seen the fight.
Originally posted by akScoundrel View PostWatch 24/7, cotto had to starve himself too to make the weight. Obviously it took more of an effect on oscar with him being older especially, but he did jack **** in the fight.
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostIt was a feeling out round. Look at it. Yes Pac can have feeling out rounds in round 1. It's not like it was round 8 ******. Hatton has nothing to do with this. Because, A) every fight is different and B) Cotto was having a feeling out round and not rushing in reckless ala Hatton
Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostHe would have to dominate that round for it to be closer than 10-8.
He didn't win the round big enough to make it closer than 10-8
Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostNah, it's not decisive Cotto round. I scored it for Cotto. But, it's wasn't a big enough round where a case couldn't be made for it to be a Pac round.
Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostYou seen the fight more times than you can remember. But, can't remember round 6. Yes you remember rounds 1-5 "perfectly"
Inb you disregard me using the word competetive, and instead say im saying cotto dominated.
Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostOscar was drained, Cotto wasn't. Watch the fight.
Imo, cotto has more in his tank than oscar did at that point in time.
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Originally posted by Boxer1590 View PostOscar De La Hoya is not Miguel Cotto. He is not any form of Cotto, better or worse. They are two separate en******. Your entire analysis is irrelevant.
Cotto has always been beyond competitive with his opponents. He's beaten everyone he's ever been in the ring with except Manny Pacquiao. In his only losses, 1st Margarito fight, he was out-boxing Margarito easy until stamina and Margarito's pressure (possibly plaster) started to play a factor. Early against Pacquiao, he was very competitive and was giving Pacquiao all he could handle, until Pacquiao's power and pressure got to him. Cottto was able to box competitively with them, including beating Margarito in a rematch, and wasn't out-boxed by guys like Zab Judah, Shane Mosley, and Paulie Malignaggi. I think Cotto's talent is dramatically underrated. Floyd fights at more of a pace that I don't see stamina, Cotto's biggest issue, playing that big of a factor. Cotto has never been out-boxed/outclassed by an opponent skill-wise, just pressured and broken down. Cotto has shown he can box with the best in the game.....but yea Mayweather is at a whole different level than everyone else. There is a chance Mayweather blows him out of the water, but I think based on what Cotto has shown in the past he deserves a little more credit. I think he has a chance at least.
Cotto's chances shouldn't be dismissed because of what happened with Oscar De La Hoya. Cotto is his own man, with his own style, with his own accomplishments.
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