Mayweather vs. Cotto post fight Thread -DON'T make new threads about the fight

[Atreyu Khalil]

This is why I felt Pac II at any weight, even at 154 was a waste of time. It was a garbage ass fight. And, shame on Pac and Arum to even make this plan A their first choice. Embarrassing for Pac to even demanding this taking place at 147. But, even at 154 it would have been crap.

Because, the first fight was competitive at all. It was a domination. A couple feeling out rounds don't change that.

6 of the 12 rounds in that fight Cotto landed more jabs in those rounds than Power shots.

[GrandpaBernard]

Cotto and De La Hoya are both converted southpaws fighting in the orthodox position. The difference is that DLH has a better left hook, better jab, better right hand, better footwork, and is a much better combination puncher. DLH is a much stronger fighter and a bigger fighter. I believe DLH's skill level is far superior to Cottos as DLH has one of the best resumes of this generation.

I Keep hearing Cottos jab will be the key....but Oscars jab is better than Cotto and this is what Oscars jab did to Mayweather...

I find this funny that whenever someone speaks on the Mayweather-De La Hoya fight they always revert back to the token....."Oscar would have won if he kep throwing the jab AFTER the 6th round"..........well boys & girls I am here to end all of that madness and lame message board rhetoric

Surprisingly, Floyd had the edge in jabs landed 69-40, throwing 240 to Oscar’s 246.

Oscar landed just 4 of 77 jabs in rounds 10-12, after landing 31 out of 124 jabs in rounds 6-9.....lol

Lets to the math....124+77= 201.....so after the 6th round...Oscar threw 201 Jabs.....he threw 45 jabs in the first 5 rounds......

So TRUTH BE TOLD Oscar actually threw MORE Jabs after the 6th round than he did before the 6th round....lol...

Oscar is 4 inches taller and his reach is 6 inches longer than Cottos and yet was unable to be effective at any point in the fight...

I hear people talking about Cottos left hook (which isnt better than Oscars, if it is...how many people has Cotto knocked out with a single left hook)...Cotto just went 12 rounds with a beyond WASHED UP Mayorga..we seen what an older DLH did with his left hook to a younger Mayorga 5 years ago.....

Cotto is a better Body puncher but Mayweathers shoulder roll stance will block all of Cottos body attacks in my opinion....

DLH's right hand > Cottos right hand.

Techincal boxing skills go to Oscar without a doubt also Cotto has no speed..Mayweather will see his punches coming a mile away

Oscar clearly has the better chin

I see this fight as a mismatch in every aspect of the word.....Corley, Judah, Mosley, Margarito, Pacquiao & Clottey were all able to bust up Cotto and none of these guys have the offensive accuracy and defensive skill of Mayweather.

I was about to mention this until I saw it in your post. Looks like you covered everything.

1st round- cotto won

2nd round- manny won

3rd round- started with the flash knockdown, cotto came back strong and it was an even round

4th round- cotto was winning, until the last seconds when he got caught rushing.

5th round- cotto won

6th- i dont remember, but it was going downhill.

Point being, cotto had more success than people like to acknowledge

I had Cotto winning the 1st, 5th, and 10th round.

He was winning the 3rd round until the knockdown. He made it a 10-9 round for himself instead of 10-8.

[Atreyu Khalil]

1st round- cotto won

2nd round- manny won

3rd round- started with the flash knockdown, cotto came back strong and it was an even round

4th round- cotto was winning, until the last seconds when he got caught rushing.

5th round- cotto won

6th- i dont remember, but it was going downhill.

Point being, cotto had more success than people like to acknowledge. How did the bigger faster stronger more skilled de la hoya do?

The bigger DLH that had to fight at WW for the first time in 9 years vs Pac?...oh that dude did a terrible job

[Boxer1590]

define...early on....i just stated Cotto was knocked down in rd 3 then knocked down in round 4....after that it was over....

so you are giving Cotto credit for 2 rounds?...

they both landed 12 punches in the first rd (8 of those punches from Cotto were jabs....in the 2nd rounds Pac landed 40 punches to Cottos 23...

as a matter of fact Cotto NEVER landed more punches than Pac in any round in the fight...so please tell me what success did Cotto have early on?

Again, your stats fail to impress me. Enough with these numbers. Even in the third round Cotto had success. He was knocked down in the first minute, and proceeded to do well the rest of the round. He was just unable to take Pacquiao's power. Cotto was doing very well in round 4, and had a lot of momentum going keeping Pacquiao on the ropes. Then he was dropped again because he couldn't take Pacquiao's punches. Even while being dropped, besides the knockdowns, Cotto was giving Pacquiao all he could handle during the rounds. Round 5 wasn't a very bad round for Cotto either. So now we are at round 6. Fight is about half way over. Cotto has given Pacquiao a competitive fight, even with the knockdowns, to this point. So yes, I will say Cotto did well "early on."

[Atreyu Khalil]

Again, your stats fail to impress me. Enough with these numbers. Even in the third round Cotto has success. He was knocked down in the first minute, and proceeded to do well the rest of the round. He was just unable to take Pacquiao's power. Cotto was doing very well in round 4, and had a lot of momentum going keeping Pacquiao on the ropes. Then he was dropped again because he couldn't take Pacquiao's punches. Even while being dropped, besides the knockdowns, Cotto was giving Pacquiao all he could handle during the rounds. Round 5 wasn't a very bad round for Cotto either. So now we are at round 6. Fight is about half way over. Cotto has given Pacquiao a competitive fight, even with the knockdowns, to this point. So yes, I will say Cotto did well "early on."

men lie, women lie and #'s dont.,...yes Cotto did ok early on in a sense but he didnt dominate those rds, he did enough to make them close but he didnt do anything impressive and he was knocked down 2 times in the first 4 rounds....im not impressed by that....

Mayweather vs Judah = Mayweather dropped first 2 rounds on 2 cards after getting outlanded 11-5 in power shots in opening 6 minutes. Start of round 3 All Floyd from then on, as he outlanded Judah 153-53 in power shots, including 28-2 in the 9th. Floyd played some “D” as well, as Judah landed in single digits in total connects in 10 of 12 rounds.


what does Zabs "early succes" mean......???? not a damn thing cause he was dominated after the 2nd round....the same thing goes for Cotto vs Pac

[Boxer1590]

ummm ok..so Cotto has success yet never outlanded Manny in any round? round 3 was his best round early in the fight and he was knocked down.

I stand by my statement.

[GrandpaBernard]

Again, your stats fail to impress me. Enough with these numbers. Even in the third round Cotto had success. He was knocked down in the first minute, and proceeded to do well the rest of the round. He was just unable to take Pacquiao's power. Cotto was doing very well in round 4, and had a lot of momentum going keeping Pacquiao on the ropes. Then he was dropped again because he couldn't take Pacquiao's punches. Even while being dropped, besides the knockdowns, Cotto was giving Pacquiao all he could handle during the rounds. Round 5 wasn't a very bad round for Cotto either. So now we are at round 6. Fight is about half way over. Cotto has given Pacquiao a competitive fight, even with the knockdowns, to this point. So yes, I will say Cotto did well "early on."

Cotto being dropped by pacquiao had to do more with getting timed and balance issues than it did chin problems. Miguel took 2-3 brutal lefts from manny in the later rounds but was only buzzed.

[~AK49~]

I had Cotto winning the 1st, 5th, and 10th round.

He was winning the 3rd round until the knockdown. He made it a 10-9 round for himself instead of 10-8.

I think you are confusing the 3rd and 4th round? The third round started with the flash knockdown, cotto fought back and it was an even round (obv manny won with the knockdown, but even in terms of trading back and forth). the forth cotto was winning completely until the knockdown, which really hurt him and lost him the round. Point being, he was competetive.

[RichCCFC]

While a lot of your points are true -- Cotto and De La Hoya are similar, they are not the same. Who knows? Maybe Cotto being shorter with shorter arms will make it more difficult? Shouldn't in theory but his jab might seem snappier.

[jrosales13]

1st round- cotto won

He won a feeling out round.

2nd round- manny won

OK

3rd round- started with the flash knockdown, cotto came back strong and it was an even round

Cotto didn't dominate that round. Nor is it a clear Cotto round. Manny did as much as Cotto did. 10-8 round for Pac.

4th round- cotto was winning, until the last seconds when he got caught rushing.

Another 10-8 round for Pac.

5th round- cotto won

A competitive round that could have gone either way. I will give it to Cotto. But, giving it to Pac is not a crime.

6th- i dont remember, but it was going downhill.

Pac won.

Point being, cotto had more success than people like to acknowledge.

People try to make it out that Cotto had more success than he actually. And, their excuse is saying "I don't remember" funny remember only the first half and not the 2nd. But, why is that? Maybe because, they didn't see the fight and go by what others say about it? Like Oscar stopped throwing the jab in the 2nd half against Floyd. It would help to actually watch fight. Maybe even more than once.

How did the bigger faster stronger more skilled de la hoya do?

Yes because an obviously weakened weight-drained fighter is the same a natural strong WW.