What fighter out of these have the worst resume?

[flat1985]

Sure they beat a ton of good fighters. But as far as great fighters? Wlad has somewhere in the neigborhood of 40 'good' fighters on his resume'. I only ranked the ones that were above average and yes I meant to put Thompson in there, my bad. Brewster was past his best when Wlad beat him. His first loss said more than his blowout win in the rematch did. Wlad dominated pitifully until mysteriously running out of gas. Brewster did'nt even land when he supposedly knocked Wlad out. Watch the tape.

****ing LOL!!

[Mr. Invincible]

they dont have to beat ATGs to be great.

people simply overrate their wins, especially Vitali. Vitali only has around 5 good wins in his whole career. Wladimir at least has about 10.

but guys like Joe Louis and Ali had a ridiculous amount of wins over top opposition. Even Tyson in the 3 years he was champ ended up with as many good wins as Wladimir(so far) has in his carerer.

Wladimir just needs to keep fighting top guys and he will eventually rightfully earn his ATG status.

Nobody is overrating Vitali. He's the only one of the two brothers to actually prove his ranking all time from lineage. Wlad didn't get the oppritunity. Plus, there's a strong case that Vitali has actually never been beaten and not only has he never been down & holds the record for the highest KO% of any heavweight champ in history, he also has the best + - connect ratio. That says something. The way Vitali is fighting right now I would say that probably nobody in history could beat him outside of a lucky punch or injury.

[Steak]

Sure they beat a ton of good fighters. But as far as great fighters? Wlad has somewhere in the neigborhood of 40 'good' fighters on his resume'. I only ranked the ones that were above average and yes I meant to put Thompson in there, my bad. Brewster was past his best when Wlad beat him. His first loss said more than his blowout win in the rematch did. Wlad dominated pitifully until mysteriously running out of gas. Brewster did'nt even land when he supposedly knocked Wlad out. Watch the tape.

no, Wladimir does not have 40 'good' wins.

his wins over Peter, Thompson, Brewster, Byrdx2, Chagaev, Ibragimov, Chagaev, McCline, and Chambers are his good wins. thats it. no one else was a top fighter in the division, I dont care how pretty their records were, that doesnt make them a good win, because I could show you limitless guys and hasbeens with good records that are currently no good at all. those 10 fights above are ten guys that were top fighters in the division, and its a good list.

[flat1985]

Nobody is overrating Vitali. He's the only one of the two brothers to actually prove his ranking all time from lineage. Wlad didn't get the oppritunity. Plus, there's a strong case that Vitali has actually never been beaten and not only has he never been down & holds the record for the highest KO% of any heavweight champ in history, he also has the best + - connect ratio. That says something. The way Vitali is fighting right now I would say that probably nobody in history could beat him outside of a lucky punch or injury.

Sorry dont you remember old Lewis?

[Mr. Invincible]

****ing LOL!!

Ok, we know you can LOL and Hahahaha, so why don't you try stating some facts to back up those hilarious gestures since you are so intelligent and all.

[flat1985]

Ok, we know you can LOL and Hahahaha, so why don't you try stating some facts to back up those hilarious gestures since you are so intelligent and all.

So name the "40" good wins of Wladimir please.

[Barry Halls]

i actually think tyson.
I feel Tyson is a better fighter than Wlad, but resume wise, he could be worse.

This is obviously a lame bait thread tho.

[Mr. Invincible]

no, Wladimir does not have 40 'good' wins.

his wins over Peter, Thompson, Brewster, Byrdx2, Chagaev, Ibragimov, Chagaev, McCline, and Chambers are his good wins. thats it. no one else was a top fighter in the division, I dont care how pretty their records were, that doesnt make them a good win, because I could show you limitless guys and hasbeens with good records that are currently no good at all. those 10 fights above are ten guys that were top fighters in the division, and its a good list.

I said he beat good fighters. Check his resume. Fighters like Pea Wolfgram are considered good with records like 17-1, etc. That's what I mean by good fighters. You are twisting my words. Before I mentioned his good wins on his resume. Also, I understand you have an opinion. You are entitled to it and I am entitled to mine.

[Steak]

Nobody is overrating Vitali. He's the only one of the two brothers to actually prove his ranking all time from lineage. Wlad didn't get the oppritunity. Plus, there's a strong case that Vitali has actually never been beaten and not only has he never been down & holds the record for the highest KO% of any heavweight champ in history, he also has the best + - connect ratio. That says something. The way Vitali is fighting right now I would say that probably nobody in history could beat him outside of a lucky punch or injury.

highest KO% doesnt actually say anything, especially when you consider only 5 fighters that Vitali beat were actually relevant fighters in the division.

in reality, Vitali has only KOed 71% of the good fighters hes faced. which is actually still decent, but you cant wish away him quitting against Byrd or getting his face torn apart by Lewis.

[Mr. Invincible]

So name the "40" good wins of Wladimir please.

I made a request first. Answer me first and then I'll answer you.

Also, "I just don't like Wlad because I'm a David Haye fan" doesn't count.