Why Did Wladimir Collapse after 4 rounds and Vitaliy did not ?

[Nautilus]

there is no proof of any foul play. sometimes athletes just dont meet their potential and it could be unfair to the athlete because all that pressure can take an effect on you and i think thats what hsppened to wlad

It indeed could be

a) pressure (Wlad suddenly became different fighter)
b) accidental mistake in use of medicaments
c) mistake in use of steroids/doping (i hope not!!!)
d) unknown health problem
e) foul play (tranquilizers slipped)


The medical analyses went missing after the fight despite K2 requests to secure them, which implicitly supports (e), but neither (b) nor (c).

[Nautilus]

There is clearly a difference:

Brewster:

Purrity:

this is a good point

[Prostitroop]

As I said before, Wlad's mind has been polluted with all these L.A. sluts and what not. All of his indulgence made him even more arrogant and less determined.

[Nautilus]

As I said before, Wlad's mind has been polluted with all these L.A. sluts and what not. All of his indulgence made him even more arrogant and less determined.

well, that's a theory

[GranTorino]

Wlad was drugged. End of story.

[K-Yo]

i really think wlad has lost his way since the sanders fight. he was the man everyone was afraid of, lewis didnt even wanna fight him. hes a devestating puncher, he had good speed and like his brother was awkward because of his size. hes got heart, you can tell from the way he kept getting up from them sanders bombs, but i think he needs a fresh approach, and a new trainer. he needs to use his jab more and gain the centre of the ring. in his last fights he has tried to brawl, and his chin hasnt been holding up. lewis proved you dont need no iron chin to be a great boxer. he needs to do a rahman, fight some bums, 6-8 fights a year, get a buzz about him again and then fight for a title.

or he could just be the next micheal grant.

who knows

[Mr. Ryan]

i really think wlad has lost his way since the sanders fight. he was the man everyone was afraid of, lewis didnt even wanna fight him. hes a devestating puncher, he had good speed and like his brother was awkward because of his size. hes got heart, you can tell from the way he kept getting up from them sanders bombs, but i think he needs a fresh approach, and a new trainer. he needs to use his jab more and gain the centre of the ring. in his last fights he has tried to brawl, and his chin hasnt been holding up. lewis proved you dont need no iron chin to be a great boxer. he needs to do a rahman, fight some bums, 6-8 fights a year, get a buzz about him again and then fight for a title.

or he could just be the next micheal grant.

who knows

Wladmir is simply not the fighter Vitali is. Vitali is the more rugged, resourceful fighter of the 2.

[Neuraxis]

i really think wlad has lost his way since the sanders fight. he was the man everyone was afraid of, lewis didnt even wanna fight him. hes a devestating puncher, he had good speed and like his brother was awkward because of his size. hes got heart, you can tell from the way he kept getting up from them sanders bombs, but i think he needs a fresh approach, and a new trainer. he needs to use his jab more and gain the centre of the ring. in his last fights he has tried to brawl, and his chin hasnt been holding up. lewis proved you dont need no iron chin to be a great boxer. he needs to do a rahman, fight some bums, 6-8 fights a year, get a buzz about him again and then fight for a title.

or he could just be the next micheal grant.

who knows

Something tells me that you haven't seen Wlad v. Nicholson.

[K-Yo]

nope, i know he won, but what are you getting at?

[The Fix]

Wlad was drugged. End of story.

do you actually believe that