Martinez: "If Pac wants a 153lb catchweight or around there, we can make it work"

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  • Doctor_Tenma
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    #71
    This is how the bullshit starts, just stick to your guns, 154 man...

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    • Bushbaby
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      #72
      Originally posted by brick wall
      that's just an assumption. if that eventually happens then people can say whatever they want. but right now, let's stick to facts. there's no point arguing about something that has yet to happen.
      Brick,the fact is that Pacman is a 154lb champ though,correct??So the former belt holder has the right to try & fight the factual champion,correct??So why should he be criticized for that??

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      • Afactor4
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        #73
        Didn't Sergio weigh like 178 lbs at one of the Williams Martinez 2 pressers?

        At Age 35, would coming down to a 153 lb catch weight kill him?

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        • brick wall
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          #74
          Originally posted by Di Bushbaby
          Brick,the fact is that Pacman is a 154lb champ though,correct??So the former belt holder has the right to try & fight the factual champion,correct??So why should he be criticized for that??
          dude i know...and everybody knows that pac has a 154 belt. and i agree martinez has every right to call him out. pac has also the right to move back down to 147 which he actually did. so what does that tell you? no 154 fight for pac right now and probably in the near future. would you criticize him for that? should martinez continue to call him out? what do you think?

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          • right_hand_lead
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            #75
            Pac should stay far away from martinez. That's got bad news written all over it.

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            • Rab-
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              #76
              Sergio would destroy Manny. He isn't a walking corpse like Mosley or a punching bag like Margo LOL.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                This is how the bullshit starts, just stick to your guns, 154 man...
                Originally posted by Rab-
                Sergio would destroy Manny. He isn't a walking corpse like Mosley or a punching bag like Margo LOL.
                I agree with both of you guys.

                Martinez has to stick to his guns. I don't like that he is changing his mind. However, it is bleacher report and I don't know how accurate it is.

                And, yes if the fight it is at 154 Martinez beats Pac. As long as Martinez is not drained he will beat Pac. It could be somewhat of a mismatch.

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                • Rab-
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  I agree with both of you guys.

                  Martinez has to stick to his guns. I don't like that he is changing his mind. However, it is bleacher report and I don't know how accurate it is.

                  And, yes if the fight it is at 154 Martinez beats Pac. As long as Martinez is not drained he will beat Pac. It could be somewhat of a mismatch.
                  I honestly don't really want to see this match.

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                  • jrosales13
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Rab-
                    I honestly don't really want to see this match.
                    As a Pacquiao fan I don't want to see this mismatch either. I already know what's coming and it won't be good for Pac.

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                    • DoktorSleepless
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by | THE KING |
                      All of that is irrelevant..

                      **** the belt then.. ok? In your mind the 8th title is a sham and doesn't hold any credibility.. so why should he fight in that division. And as I have said, you clearly look over this, Team Pacquiao has said prior to the Tony fight.. that the Jr. MM fight was a one-time thing. He was testing the waters so to speak (reason for catchweight).

                      Your logic:

                      Martinez is too small for bigger fighters. Pass
                      Manny has to fight bigger fighters. Fail


                      Sergio height: 5'10"
                      reach: 76"

                      B-Hop height: 6'1"
                      reach: 75"

                      Ward height: 6'1"
                      reach: 73"



                      Manny height: 5'6"
                      reach: 67"


                      Manny is a small WW.. basically smaller than many of the Jr. WW's..

                      With that being said.. I'd love to see this fight and see Manny challenged again. He is making it look too easy.



                      I backed it up with numbers.

                      Do you get that?
                      Martinez fought Paul Williams who has a 82" reach and is 4-5 inches taller than him. Those stats don't win fights. If Martinez can fight those disadvantages and win so could Pac.
                      Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 01-26-2011, 05:35 PM.

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