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damn u mutha fudgers r overrating calzaghe lol. ward would beat him and maybe dirrell but we'll never know for sure.
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Calzaghe retired at exactly the right time in my opinion. If he had fought on and beat either Dawson or Pavlik when they were undefeated, they would have been dismissed as over-hyped, and this would have continued until someone finally managed to beat him.
As for the Hopkins fight, I scored it 114-113 for Hopkins, it could have gone either way but I have no sympathy for Bernard and do not blame the judges for favouring Calzaghe's aggression. The reason Calzaghe and other opponents couldn't beat him "decisively" is because he is an extremely negative, dirty fighter who would do anything to avoid defeat, including constantly holding, headbutting, and faking low blows in order to get a breather.Last edited by adamk1304; 01-24-2011, 06:12 AM.Comment
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I think Ward may beat him, I'd have to favor Calzaghe though.Comment
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Daggum, I seriously think you underrate Calzaghe. Look, if Calzaghe only slaps and has no power as you persistently go on about .
why the hell did Hopkins not walk him down?
Why did Hopkins fake low blows,and was sucking wind after the six round, and looked really OLD and washed up?
After the fight, Roach said,” I will not train Hopkins anymore, he is too old,and should retire, I would hate to see him hurt.”
The only way to truly see how good Calzaghe is, is to watch the Hopkins fight prior to Calzaghe and his two fights since.
I stand in ore that Calzaghe was the only man able to make Hopkins look old and washed up.Comment
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AMEN!!!
Im sure all the money Joe has he is not worried about the haters bagging him out...I mean slapping...comeon...*****z not hittin like Tyson and they on his back!!...He would beat all in the super six...maybe Struggle with Ward unless he came back extremly fit...but yes...Calzaghe...Now...would do it...please come back Joe 168 sux without you...everybody with any hype behind them is being found out...including my favorite!...rematch Hopkins at least!!Comment
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No your lying, I have seen almost every fight calzaghe has been in, I have his dvd. He has always cuffed with his punches a little, and that is probably a factor as to why he had hand trouble later on in his career, but he turned his punches over way better in the early part of his career, and it was only really after evans ashira which was his 2nd major hand break that he started slapping a lot more. If you watch his early fights, I mean the first 15-20 he turns his punches over extremely well, scores knockdowns, and throws with power. If you look at his amateur footage, even his only amateur loss there is nothing wrong with his punching technique. There are many fighters who have gone on record to say how heavy handed he is, Charles Brewer, Byron Mitchell, and Richie Woodhall to name a few.
Yes many of his stoppages came from flurries but that was his style, to overwelm his opponent rather than pick the ko punches, and why wouldn't he do that his speed was too much for most 168lbers. Yes there were premature stoppages, but not his fault to be honest it was a hard job for the referee becasue he threw so many unanswered punches, and when fighters were hurt or staggered it did look as though they couldn't defend themselves.
Overall he really was a tremendous fighter, he could fight in so many different ways and thats why he was so difficult to beat, it was to his credit that he became more boxer than fighter after his hand trouble. He was so adaptable because he could brawl if need be ie mitchell, eubank, he could pressure more skillful opponents ie. hopkins, he could out-box big punchers ie. lacy kessler. No one could match his workrate and he had a great chin, and the times he did get dropped and rocked his head clears so quickly like marquez. He had a true fighters heart, and when he would get hit he had that erik morales about him where he had to answer straight back.
His resume is not great, but it is not poor either. It was solid...he had 1 great career win against hopkins, a very good win against kessler, and a lot of decent, solid wins, lacy, eubank, woodhall, brewer, bika, mitchell, jones, reid. Lke most fighters he is underrated by some and overrated by others, my opinion is that he would have competed in any era of 160-175 because of the qualities he possessed. In his era, only 2 fighters are above him imo and thats jones and hopkins, I would have calzaghe above james toney, some wouldn't but I would. Although Toney was a more skilled fighter, calzaghe had intangible qualities that Toney doesn't have. Out of the current crop only Ward could potentially beat calzaghe, it would be an ugly fight and I agree with people that say it would like hopkins fight, but calzaghe would maybe have more success on the inside against ward.Comment
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i would have loved to see a froch-joefightComment
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Ward and Dirrell would both give him a handful, and Froch at the very least would make Calzaghe work, though I think Calzaghe beats him by a pretty wide point margin.Comment
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Ward would beat the brakes off Calzaghe.Comment
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