wouldve loved to see calzaghe in the super 6

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  • SNVDoublePunch!
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    #51
    Originally posted by BostonGuy
    I'm still kind of dissappointed that Calzaghe retired when he did. I thought that he still had a couple more great performances left in him and surely a win against then undefeated Chad Dawson (a proposed fight at the time) would have helped his legacy....

    Me too. And I believe he'd have beaten all of these guys, by varying margins. Which is what's sad about it.

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    • Sparked_1985
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      #52
      I think Dirrell would be a problem if he came with the right game plan.

      He is decisively faster than Joe.

      Dirrell seems like a bit of a bottler though.

      I'd favor him over all the other.

      Imagine Calzaghe vs Arthur......lol.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Sparked_1985
        I think Dirrell would be a problem if he came with the right game plan.

        He is decisively faster than Joe.

        Dirrell seems like a bit of a bottler though.

        I'd favor him over all the other.

        Imagine Calzaghe vs Arthur......lol.

        Bottler, indeed. I don't think he has the fortitude to match his considerable athletic talents by a long shot. I can't imagine him beating a fast, skilled volume puncher with a chin and massive stamina.

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        • RichCCFC
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          #54
          Calzaghe would beat them all, Bute and Ward toughest fights.

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          • Die Antwoord
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            #55
            Originally posted by wazaa.
            . Calzaghe would get beat by Ward, Dirrell, Froch and Johnson. He might squeeze a SD win against Green and Taylor but that's it.
            Hey man, heard Amir Khan just took a **** and it is especially large due to the massive amounts of hummus and lamb hes been eating. I think you should hurry over to his house and see if he'll let you take a picture for your scrap book.

            Dirty Joe would never be in the Super 6. There wouldnt have been a super 6. It would have been the Super 1, and 6-7 other guys who get beat by him.

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            • Prince Boateng
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              #56
              He would of made it ciompetitive....but I just dont subscribe to this 'He would blast everyone in sight' theory.........Him against Ward would be a very competitive fight and possibly Dirrell/Bute (eventhough Bute aint in the Super Six)

              The way Clazaghe is being talked about in this thread...you would think he was an atg, but he is merely a HOF, nothing more....

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                #57
                Originally posted by Prince Boateng
                He would of made it ciompetitive....but I just dont subscribe to this 'He would blast everyone in sight' theory.........Him against Ward would be a very competitive fight and possibly Dirrell/Bute (eventhough Bute aint in the Super Six)

                The way Clazaghe is being talked about in this thread...you would think he was an atg, but he is merely a HOF, nothing more....
                at 168 he is an atg..probally the best 168 fighter ever in its short history

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                • Kesslerfan#1
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by sunny31
                  No your lying, I have seen almost every fight calzaghe has been in, I have his dvd. He has always cuffed with his punches a little, and that is probably a factor as to why he had hand trouble later on in his career, but he turned his punches over way better in the early part of his career, and it was only really after evans ashira which was his 2nd major hand break that he started slapping a lot more. If you watch his early fights, I mean the first 15-20 he turns his punches over extremely well, scores knockdowns, and throws with power. If you look at his amateur footage, even his only amateur loss there is nothing wrong with his punching technique. There are many fighters who have gone on record to say how heavy handed he is, Charles Brewer, Byron Mitchell, and Richie Woodhall to name a few.

                  Yes many of his stoppages came from flurries but that was his style, to overwelm his opponent rather than pick the ko punches, and why wouldn't he do that his speed was too much for most 168lbers. Yes there were premature stoppages, but not his fault to be honest it was a hard job for the referee becasue he threw so many unanswered punches, and when fighters were hurt or staggered it did look as though they couldn't defend themselves.

                  Overall he really was a tremendous fighter, he could fight in so many different ways and thats why he was so difficult to beat, it was to his credit that he became more boxer than fighter after his hand trouble. He was so adaptable because he could brawl if need be ie mitchell, eubank, he could pressure more skillful opponents ie. hopkins, he could out-box big punchers ie. lacy kessler. No one could match his workrate and he had a great chin, and the times he did get dropped and rocked his head clears so quickly like marquez. He had a true fighters heart, and when he would get hit he had that erik morales about him where he had to answer straight back.

                  His resume is not great, but it is not poor either. It was solid...he had 1 great career win against hopkins, a very good win against kessler, and a lot of decent, solid wins, lacy, eubank, woodhall, brewer, bika, mitchell, jones, reid. Lke most fighters he is underrated by some and overrated by others, my opinion is that he would have competed in any era of 160-175 because of the qualities he possessed. In his era, only 2 fighters are above him imo and thats jones and hopkins, I would have calzaghe above james toney, some wouldn't but I would. Although Toney was a more skilled fighter, calzaghe had intangible qualities that Toney doesn't have. Out of the current crop only Ward could potentially beat calzaghe, it would be an ugly fight and I agree with people that say it would like hopkins fight, but calzaghe would maybe have more success on the inside against ward.
                  Fantastic post...****s need to get real...Joe is a HOFer if not and ATG...take it or leave it.

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                  • jimburi
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                    #59
                    Would have loved to see Bute in there too and make it a super 8 .
                    But every case has his own contracts , obligations and goals to follow/fulfill.

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                      #60
                      Yeah, Ward vs. Calzaghe would definitely have been an interesting fight. But at the same time I can’t blame Calzaghe for getting out when he did. I think a lot of boxers plan to retire in their late 30’s, but for whatever reason end up staying in the game too long. That said, if that’s the way you want to do it, fine, but I also don’t have any disrespect for anyone getting out early.

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