Pacquiao vs. Mosley might be headed to Showtime (PPV)???

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  • Born2Live
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    #11
    Going to Showtime will only decrease what would of been a weak selling PPV on HBO.

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      #12
      Double-edged sword here for both HBO & Arum. Has its positives and negatives on each side. Showtime is going to have to step up big time to match what would've been HBO's budget. Plus, the channel simply doesn't have the same viewership to promote it in the same fashion. Should be interesting - although there seems to be a lot more chatter about this than facts.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Born2Live
        Going to Showtime will only decrease what would of been a weak selling PPV on HBO.
        I agree. At the same time this is terrific for boxing IMHO. Gives me an extra reason to pay for Showtime.

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          #14
          Originally posted by -Huey-
          Good, I don't have Showtime nor do I care to pay extra for it. I only pay for HBO. *** Arum and Showtime. I hope this means we will no longer see those crap of Top Rank cards anymore, on HBO.

          I both subscribe to HBO and Showtime, but the Pacquiao vs. Mosley fight is not the issue here. It's just Bob's way of saying don't **** with him, because he has the means and the resources to back up his threat (Latin Fury/Pinoy Power). He's known to produce his own boxing events since time immemorial, and Bob is feeling like a woman scorned because he was treated as a second class citizen by HBO...

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            #15
            Originally posted by gopi11
            Dan Rafael twittered this hours ago:

            @danrafaelespn "Lotta chatter in the biz that Pacquiao-Mosley is no lock for HBO PPV & that Arum is serious about possible Showtime PPV deal. That'd be big."
            HBO still has the TOP Draw in PPV and the highest paid boxer.... HBO FTW

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              #16
              Originally posted by Cash Cow
              HBO still has the TOP Draw in PPV and the highest paid boxer.... HBO FTW

              This is not about Floyd either. We are talking about a power struggle here that could mean something that concerns boxing's future in general...

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                #17
                IF the fight ends up on Showtime, and I'm not convinced it's anything but bullying by Bob, it would be interesting to see how CBS (Showtime's parent company) promotes the fight. I remember Arum saying that whatever network got the rights to the fight would produce a 24/7 like program, so question is would the network be willing to broadcast said program on CBS or would it be relegated to Show like Fight Camp?

                If it did end up being on CBS that would be HUGE regardless of what hardcore fans and boxing media think of the fight, that would be massive exposure that HBO could never dream of delivering AND it would pave the way for getting Boxing back into mainstream broadcast television.

                But like I said, big IF since most likely it will end up on HBO since they really have no bargaining chips and will cave to Arum's demands.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ThePrince
                  IF the fight ends up on Showtime, and I'm not convinced it's anything but bullying by Bob, it would be interesting to see how CBS (Showtime's parent company) promotes the fight. I remember Arum saying that whatever network got the rights to the fight would produce a 24/7 like program, so question is would the network be willing to broadcast said program on CBS or would it be relegated to Show like Fight Camp?

                  If it did end up being on CBS that would be HUGE regardless of what hardcore fans and boxing media think of the fight, that would be massive exposure that HBO could never dream of delivering AND it would pave the way for getting Boxing back into mainstream broadcast television.

                  But like I said, big IF since most likely it will end up on HBO since they really have no bargaining chips and will cave to Arum's demands.
                  CBS being the parent company means very little in the big picture. They aren't involved in the day to day. If they were, Showtime would already be as big as HBO but they aren't in the same stratosphere. Then again, this hurts HBO as well - this fight is going to make a good profit and future earnings from other possible bouts may be lost as well.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Cash Cow
                    HBO still has the TOP Draw in PPV and the highest paid boxer.... HBO FTW
                    2009-
                    Pacquiao- 2.1 million PPV buys
                    Floyd- 1 million

                    2010:
                    Pacquiao- 1.9 million
                    Floyd- 1.4

                    Unless Floyd plans on fighting more than once in a blue moon, if he plans to fight at all, then HBO is hurt more by Pacquiao's absence than bolstered by Floyd's presence.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      CBS being the parent company means very little in the big picture. They aren't involved in the day to day. If they were, Showtime would already be as big as HBO but they aren't in the same stratosphere. Then again, this hurts HBO as well - this fight is going to make a good profit and future earnings from other possible bouts may be lost as well.
                      But Showtime hasn't had a marquee name like Pacquiao since probably Mike Tyson and that was before the 24/7 era. Pacquiao was already on CBS primetime when 60 minutes did a piece on him which was watched by c. 14 million people. Not saying that it will/would happen, I'm just thinking outside the box a bit here.

                      But you can't deny how big of an impact that would have not only on PPV sales, but Boxing in general.

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