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  • jimmy1569
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    #51
    Originally posted by Gratide
    the k's fight much like larry Homes did . I think the haters are just prejustied against euopean fighters . You didn't see Lennox Lewis asking for a re-match , he saw the future and got the hell out of the game . All the young HW fighetrs are hiding and waiting for the k's to get old or retire . They are also like PBF , hit and don't get hit but with balls .
    They fight like Larry Holmes utilyzing a great jab but KO peeps like George Foreman. They give you the best of both worlds but all the haters can do is ***** about it.

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    • Die Antwoord
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      #52
      Tyson was more exciting in my opinion, but only because he wasnt nearly as dominant as either klitschko. Tyson at times made flat out bums look like GOAT and you always knew with Tyson there was some level of danger, some degree of craziness etc...However, The Klitschko's are so much better and more dominant I find them fun to watch, but youre right their fights arent as exciting because its much easier to predict whats going to happen.

      Whats more exciting. Man U or the Yankees blowing out some team 10-0. The Lakers beating the Jazz 121-54? Ohio State beating Indiana 49-0 in football...or two evenly matched teams in a close slugfest. Thats the difference between the Klitschko's and Tyson. Klitschko's are so dominant that its easy to predict what would happen. They are so dominant that they exert their will on every fight and make them shut outs and all of the fights wind up fairly similar. I agree at times they cant mimic the back and forths or unpredictable nature of lesser fighters liek Ali vs. frazier.

      I mean think about olympic swimming, Michael Phelps dominated the last two olympics, but what was the most exciting moment and most memorable moment...that american guy catching that arrogant french guy and touching him out in the relays. Does that mean michael phelps is less of a swimmer...no but drama breeds excitement and Tyson fights had more drama, Klitschko's fights...you know pretty much right now that unless one of them falls and hurts themselves theyre going to win.

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      • the niggest
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        #53
        Originally posted by Die Antwoord
        Tyson was more exciting in my opinion, but only because he wasnt nearly as dominant as either klitschko. Tyson at times made flat out bums look like GOAT and you always knew with Tyson there was some level of danger, some degree of craziness etc...However, The Klitschko's are so much better and more dominant I find them fun to watch, but youre right their fights arent as exciting because its much easier to predict whats going to happen.

        Whats more exciting. Man U or the Yankees blowing out some team 10-0. The Lakers beating the Jazz 121-54? Ohio State beating Indiana 49-0 in football...or two evenly matched teams in a close slugfest. Thats the difference between the Klitschko's and Tyson. Klitschko's are so dominant that its easy to predict what would happen. They are so dominant that they exert their will on every fight and make them shut outs and all of the fights wind up fairly similar. I agree at times they cant mimic the back and forths or unpredictable nature of lesser fighters liek Ali vs. frazier.

        I mean think about olympic swimming, Michael Phelps dominated the last two olympics, but what was the most exciting moment and most memorable moment...that american guy catching that arrogant french guy and touching him out in the relays. Does that mean michael phelps is less of a swimmer...no but drama breeds excitement and Tyson fights had more drama, Klitschko's fights...you know pretty much right now that unless one of them falls and hurts themselves theyre going to win.

        Tyson faced MUCH better opposition than Klitschko, it ain't even close. The only reason the Klitschkos are so dominant is because this heavyweight era sucks. Tyson would be equally dominant if he fought today.

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        • WladIsTheChamp
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          #54
          Originally posted by Megamerican
          1) Seeing Tyson blast his opponents out early is way more exciting than seeing Wlad jab his opponents for almost the whole fight and play it safe until late in the fight and the stop his opponent.

          2) Yeah? When he was fighting bums in the beggining of his career? The last fighter he got out early was ray austin. Wlad hasn't stopped a quality fighter early in his entire career. Unlike Tyson who finished Michael Spinks in 1 round and Holmes in 4, and Bruno in 5 and 3 rounds. All 3 of them are better than anybody on Wlads entire resume.

          3) I want to see exciting fights rather than boring ones. Exciting fights can be 12 rounds for all I care. And the fact is Wlad is not exciting.

          4) Mayweather used to be more exciting back in the day, I can't say I find him exciting now. I never enjoyed watching Hopkins fight.
          1) Let me repeat that again... Wlad 26 KOs in 3 rounds or less, Tyson 31 KOs in 3 rounds or less, don't see a big diference there. Overall KO%, Wlad's is much higher than Tyson's.

          2) Wasn't Tyson fighting bums at the beginning of his career? LOL at your biased @ss giving Tyson credit for KO'ing a LHW that was coming off a one-year lay-off and on the verge of retirement and then a 40 year old Holmes.

          3) We know you hate him and don't watch his fights, so your opinion is **** when it comes to how exciting Wlad is.

          4) At least you are consistent. Mayweather and Hopkins are boring as ****. Which means that the only fights you watch are on ESPN Classic.

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          • ChopperRead
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            #55
            Originally posted by Megamerican

            Wlad hasn't stopped a quality fighter early in his entire career. .
            You know, you make some perfectly legitimate points, but then you make a statement like that and lose all credibility. That's the remark of someone who can't see past his own biases.

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            • the niggest
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              #56
              Originally posted by ChopperRead
              You know, you make some perfectly legitimate points, but then you make a statement like that and lose all credibility. That's the remark of someone who can't see past his own biases.
              Name the quality fighters Wlad stopped early. Early as in under 5 rounds at least, so lets hear it.
              Last edited by the niggest; 01-20-2011, 11:53 AM.

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              • ChopperRead
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                #57
                Originally posted by Megamerican
                Tyson faced MUCH better opposition than Klitschko, it ain't even close. The only reason the Klitschkos are so dominant is because this heavyweight era sucks. Tyson would be equally dominant if he fought today.
                Tyson biggest wins were over a semi-retired Larry Holmes, who only came back for a suitcase full of cash Don King waved in front of his nose and who knew he was going to lose, and over blown-up light-heavyweight Michael Spinks.

                FACT: Mike Tyson never beat a single hall of fame-caliber heavyweight in his prime. Holmes was well past that when he lost to Tyson.

                Tyson also struggled with guys like "Quick" Tillis, not exactly a household name.

                The myth of Tyson and the reality of Tyson are two different things.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
                  Yes, you can't read or something?
                  Wlad more exciting than Tyson? GTFOH

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                  • the niggest
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by ChopperRead
                    Tyson biggest wins were over a semi-retired Larry Holmes, who only came back for a suitcase full of cash Don King waved in front of his nose and who knew he was going to lose, and over blown-up light-heavyweight Michael Spinks.

                    FACT: Mike Tyson never beat a single hall of fame-caliber heavyweight in his prime. Holmes was well past that when he lost to Tyson.

                    Tyson also struggled with guys like "Quick" Tillis, not exactly a household name.

                    The myth of Tyson and the reality of Tyson are two different things.
                    Michael Spinks had the IBF title, he had beaten Holmes. He was also taller than Tyson. Tyson was a small heavyweight. Michael Spinks was also a great light heavyweight. It's a very good win. Let me put it this way, A win over Michael Spinks is a hell of a lot better than a win over Tomasz Adamek who Wlads about to fight in the fall.

                    Tyson also beat Frank Bruno(twice), Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tucker, Trevor Berbick, and no matter how you twist it... Larry Holmes despite being old and coming of a lay off is way better than most guys on Wlads resume.

                    Name all the great wins Wlad have? Wlad doesn't have a single win over a HOF either.

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                    • WladIsTheChamp
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Megamerican
                      Name the quality fighters Wlad stopped early. Early as in under 5 rounds at least, so lets hear it.
                      The quality of fighters that Wlad fights don't get KOd in five rounds or less, unlike the opposition Tyson faced. If that's the measure you use then fighters like Bernardo Mercado and Lionel Butler are more exciting than Tyson, they knocked out Berbick and Tubbs earlier than Tyson.

                      Tyson was only exciting to non-boxing fans such as yourself because of his craziness but he lacked real skill like the Klitschkos. Just look at every time he stepped up, and no I don't give him credit for KOing a LHW and 40 year old-timer, because in that case Wlad gets all the credit in the world for being the first man to stop a 40 year old Mercer.

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