Winner of tournament between Gatti, Ward, Hatton, Katsidis?

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  • Walt Liquor
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    #31
    Originally posted by boxingsmash69
    Well, Gatti was definitely effective at 140, he was world champ there. He's definitely able to compete at 140. It was welterweight where he never should have touched.
    ww was def too high for him but I thought we were comparing primes.

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    • Bastian Loc
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      #32
      Originally posted by It's Ovah
      How does one or two bad rounds against Lazcano equal getting handed your ass? Gatti had bad rounds against B fighters all throughout his career and himself was barely more than a B fighter at his very best. He was never in Hatton's league.
      lol... I understand you're British, but you need to either A) rewatch that fight and watch Hatton get destroyed and saved by the ref or B) get glasses.

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      • Red Rebel
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        #33
        Hatton beats;

        -Katsidis by way of ko (8th-rd)
        -Ward by tko (10th-rd)
        -Gatti by UD (120-108).

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        • boxingsmash69
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          #34
          Originally posted by Walt Liquor
          ww was def too high for him but I thought we were comparing primes.
          Gatti's prime weight may have been the lower weightclasses, but consider the experience and skills development throughout the later stages of careers. Sure, Gatti was a really good slugger, but he learned to box pretty well later on.

          Just the thought of putting in a 140lbs Gatti (who was still damn good) in against Katsidis/Hatton @ 140 would make for pure excitement. That's really mostly what I had in mind when making this fantasy tourney matchup because all fighters (except maybe Katsidis, we don't know yet) are certainly effective at 140, though I expected Hatton to be a clear winner.

          Gatti won world titles at 130, but later on he won a world title at 140 AFTER that vicious trilogy with Ward. I would say Gatti @ 140lbs is near prime or prime.
          Last edited by boxingsmash69; 01-20-2011, 12:12 AM.

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          • boxingsmash69
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            #35
            Originally posted by It's Ovah
            People seriously need to reassess what B and C level fighters actually are. Hatton was A class. You don't win fights against Tszyu and Castillo or pitch shutouts against Malignaggi and Urango if you're just average. Hatton's only two official losses are against the two best P4P fighters of the last few years, and no one can accuse him of having a weak resume.
            I agree 110%. Hatton in his prime is an A class fighter. It's just Pacquiao and Mayweather are A++ class. Hell, the Hatton that fought Pac/Floyd wasn't even prime anymore thanks to his blowing up in weight lifestyle and Tszyu.

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              #36
              Originally posted by boxingsmash69
              Gatti's prime weight may have been the lower weightclasses, but consider the experience and skills development throughout the later stages of careers. Sure, Gatti was a really good slugger, but he learned to box pretty well later on.
              I don't think Gatti really learned any new boxing skills at 140, he just went back to them more. He was in a boxing mode at 130 when he won the title from Patterson.

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              • Bastian Loc
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                #37
                I can't believe how much you guys are overrating Hatton.

                Honestly.

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                • nomadman
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Subtraction
                  I can't believe how much you guys are overrating Hatton.
                  Of course you can't. Because you think Hatton was a bum who was worse than Gatti.

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                  • Bastian Loc
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by It's Ovah
                    Of course you can't. Because you think Hatton was a bum who was worse than Gatti.
                    Hatton was a degree shy of a bum.

                    Without Frank Warren, that degree would've been negated.

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                    • Silencers
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                      #40
                      Hatton. Gatti and Ward provided a lot of entertainment but they weren't really top level fighters, Katsidis has fallen short at the top level too. Hatton at his best was a level above these guys.

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