Comments Thread For: Wladimir Klitschko: Don't Believe David Haye's Bull****!

[cklmaced]

[QUOTE=Feldscher;9942735][QUOTE=Jim Jeffries;9942702] Yeah I'm not really sure why Haye would be so worried about his (undeserved) paper belt when presented with an opportunity to fight Wlad for his three (including the Ring) legit belts. Wlad already beat the legit holder of Haye's belt.

In all fairness to Haye (and I can not believe that I’m actually saying this), without the belt, 50:50 is going to be off the table; which will give David the old “slave contract” excuse again.

Excuse google "derick chisora contract" and tell me its an "excuse" afterwards.

[Uturn]

Yeah I'm not really sure why Haye would be so worried about his (undeserved) paper belt when presented with an opportunity to fight Wlad for his three (including the Ring) legit belts. Wlad already beat the legit holder of Haye's belt.

The contract that Wlad signed with Chisora for their Dec 2010 fight, stipulates that Wlad must still fight him. Haye is trying to get Wlad in there with 10 months without a fight in his 15th year as a pro, so he can get lucky and then retire. Wlad ain't having it.

Wladimar wants the WBA belt even if it is a 'paper' belt. Haye needs to hold onto the WBA belt, otherwise the clout he did have would have banished without possessing a belt. K2 want all the belts in their hands, it's a fact.

[Jim Jeffries]

I doubt anyone would give Wlad a hard time for "ducking" Chisora.

Watch your mouth! My Zimbabwean brother from another mother and Kubrat Pulev are the future of the division. I'm hoping Haye tries to coheadline with Khan and pay Chisora step aside money. Styles make fights and from what I've seen, I think Derek is too much risk for almost zero reward. And a dude thats already bitten an opponent isn't going to think twice about fouling Wlad on the inside in the clinches.

In all fairness to Haye (and I can not believe that I’m actually saying this), without the belt, 50:50 is going to be off the table; which will give David the old “slave contract” excuse again.

Good point.

[jknightx]

It is Wlad's fault for going through with the Chisora Charade™ which nobody is interested in and stalling on Haye.

Haye is ready now and Wlad is lining up Chisora and Adamek??

WTF???

Dude what stalling? Wlad said it was a stay busy fight,Wlad still was going to fight Haye on july 2nd He never said no to the July2nd date. Haye was the one who stated"we will not fight Wlad on july 2nd if Wlad fights Chisora in april" thats plain english.HAYE said I WILL NOT FIGHT wLAD IF HE FIGHTS CHISORA IN APRIL" that is HAYE PULLING THE PLUG ON THE FIGHT. NOT WLAD.

[jknightx]

Wladimar wants the WBA belt even if it is a 'paper' belt. Haye needs to hold onto the WBA belt, otherwise the clout he did have would have banished without possessing a belt. K2 want all the belts in their hands, it's a fact.

THIS IS TRUE, and it is Hayes only bargaining chip with the Klitschkos so he does need it if he wants to keep the 50-50 split. but it looks now thhat he said no the july 2nd fight, and now he cannot fight Chagaev in England, he may end up having to fight Chagaev in Germany and get far less money,(he should just stuck with the july 2d date and made a ton of money)

[Feldscher]

...HAYE PULLING THE PLUG ON THE FIGHT. NOT WLAD.

You may need to scream louder to get through to them. Try font #7, ... "bold", ... "underline".

[jknightx]

If Wlad wanted Haye so bad he would agree to July 2nd Haye himself said they both agreed that date with venue,TV etc fact is that if Wlad didnt choose to fight Chisora the fight would be signed and we would be discussing who would win not who ducked who.

P.S Didn't Wlad say before he would fight him anywhere at anytime.

WLad was still going to go threw with the july 2nd fight with Haye.So why is Haye saying no to fight just because Wlad wants to fight Chisora first? The Chisora fight had no baring on the July 2nd for Wlad to fight Haye, why is Haye the making suh a big deal about a simple stay busy fight. Haye himself said that Chisora has no chance.So why is so upset that Wlad decided to have one fight befor july2nd?

[EatKnuckle]

first all, unlike Haye,Wlad produced medical reports and presented them to Chisoras's team(all comfirmed by Chisora) 2ndly there is no reason Haye should be pulling out of the july fight with Wlad just becuase he decided to fight Chisora 9 weeks earlier .Haye connot dictate when and who Wlad fights befor him.If Wlad wants a tune up(and the reverse is true IF Haye wanted a tune up) one champ cannot tell the other he cannot have a stay busy fight. In the end Haye pulled the plug on the july 2nd date not Wlad (and this is also fact
) It was team Haye that said that they will not fight Wlad in july if he fights Chisora in april ,witch is justt plain silly.

This!

[cklmaced]

WLad was still going to go threw with the july 2nd fight with Haye.So why is Haye saying no to fight just because Wlad wants to fight Chisora first? The Chisora fight had no baring on the July 2nd for Wlad to fight Haye, why is Haye the making suh a big deal about a simple stay busy fight. Haye himself said that Chisora has no chance.So why is so upset that Wlad decided to have one fight befor july2nd?

Yes it does it forces Haye to do his mandatory just like Haye couldn't face Vitali in the early part of this year cos he has to fight Solis his mandatory.

[Spray_resistant]

I doubt anyone would give Wlad a hard time for "ducking" Chisora.

Yet when it was immediately announced that he pulled out all of Haye's fanboys and Wlad's haters were making threads suggesting the very thing. Wlad probably just wants to honor his commitment who knows why he is taking the fight as he wanted to get into camp and fight Haye right after so he must be certain that Chisora will be an easy night, yet Haye still is not confident enough to fight Wlad right after he went through a full training camp off of an injury, a fight, and then another training camp immediately after.