Say what you want about Mayweather's inactivity, but he fights P4P Elites

[nelsoncm]

Correction..

Hatton was P4P#5 when he fought Mayweather

Marquez was P4P#2 when he fought Mayweather

Mosley was P4P#3 when he fought Mayweather


Lets look at Manny

Cotto wasnt on P4P list when Pacquiao fought him

Clottey wasnt on P4P list when Pacquiao fought him

Margarito wasnt on P4P list when Pacquiao fought him

Funny how Floyd never fought the fighters Pac slaughtered.

[cupocity303]

Why are you people arguing back n forth about what number p4p these guys were as if these things are actually factual?

Yeah it's ****** to argue specific numbers.

But to just broadly say that they were Top 10 Fighters, is a important factor imo.

Within reasonable weight, if you beat a guy who is also on that list, then you have beaten a great fighter at that time. He may not be all-time great but he had to have done something to get into Top 10, and thus you have someone noteworthy on your resume.

Beating P4P Top 10 Elite >>>> Top 10 Contender in your weight class or WBC, WBA, IBF's Ranking system.


Think about it, B-Hop's got more accolades for beating a smaller Tito Trinidad than all the Top 10 natural Middleweight's he has been executing during his Middleweight Reign.

[ADP02]

Why are you clutching at staws. I already covered that by saying "say what you will about his opponents being too small, too old, too pale. And here you go trying to **** on his resume.

God, we have some Low IQ'd morons in here who argue like 1st graders.

Just accept the fact of this thread, that he fought Top 10 guys on paper and move on.

I tried to explain it to you like an adult would BUT the problem is that YOUR BOXING IQ is what is at fault not mine. Others have said similar comments here than me.

Please read my previous thread slowly and you may understand.

Floyd fought 2 guys that did nothing at 147. So what that they are P4P rated as you stated. MOST people would have gotten that. I tried to state it to you nicely but you are the one who started with the name calling.

To make it more simpler for you. If Marquez, who at one point was rated HIGHER that Martinez fought, would you say but Martinez fought a top rated P4P fighter? Come on man, ..... and you are calling me out? Geeeeezzz!

Same with Mosley, he was rated based on his last fight. Right? That was in January 2009.
BUT
- Mosley lost to Cotto and
- Mosley almost lost to Mayorga
- Fought someone who was stylistically suited for an older Mosley in Margarito. Furthermore, Margarito was just caught with bricks.
- Not fighting for 16 months can be hard on someone younger (even Floyd admitted that), for an old 39 year old, it's terrible!

By the way, YOU CAN'T REMOVE THE OBVIOUS AND SAY YOU ARE CLUTCHING AT STRAWS. Marquez didn't belong at 147. It's obvious and being P4P rated didn't change that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Yeah it's ****** to argue specific numbers.

But to just broadly say that they were Top 10 Fighters, is a important factor imo.

Within reasonable weight, if you beat a guy who is also on that list, then you have beaten a great fighter at that time. He may not be all-time great but he had to have done something to get into Top 10, and thus you have someone noteworthy on your resume.

Beating P4P Top 10 Elite >>>> Top 10 Contender in your weight class or WBC, WBA, IBF's Ranking system.

Depends who they are. Like i said, only the Mosley win is credible out of the 3.

[cupocity303]

Depends who they are. Like i said, only the Mosley win is credible out of the 3.

Well I disagree.

To nitpick and pretend like Hatton was a much bigger force at 140 than he would've been at 147 is simple nonsense, and doesn't make much sense scientifically.

Hatton has been draining himself for years to get to the 140 limit, if anything he was much healthier and in better fighting shape at 147 than he was at 140. The difference is, better opposition at 147 who were slightly bigger. It wasn't him, it was the opponents.

Now if you wanna argue that beating Hatton at 140 would've been more historically relevant, because Hatton was the 140 Champion, then you have a point.

But physically, Floyd beat a much better Hatton at 147 than he would've at 140.

[Cash Cow]

Lol, no, I'm getting to that point in my life where I'm bored with this site, and causing havoc makes me happy.



43-0. He had dropped a few spots when Mayweather fought him. I think it was the Collazo fight that dropped him a few spots, or maybe it was just other fighters doing legit stuff and jumping him. I was the biggest Mayweather fanboy when he fought Hatton, I'm positive he was #8.

I think we should ask JRo what the 2008 P4P rankings were

[Real King Kong]

Actually no correction necessary.

I was speaking in broad terms, that Hatton was Top 10 P4P guy, I didn't say he was # 10.

I knew that Marquez was in the Top 5, I didn't say that he was # 5.

I knew that Mosley was somewhere in the Top 5 but didn't bother looking it up, I didn't say he was # 5.


Jumping the gun, comprehension isn't your best attribute.

ummm...if hatton was indeed ranked #5 pfp that would mean he was in the top 5. so really all three were top 5 pfp when floyd fought them.

[Cash Cow]

Funny how Floyd never fought the fighters Pac slaughtered.

LOL


Dude Mayweather fought guys at credible times...which is why they were all considered P4P fighters at the time Mayweather fought them and the guys Pac fought werent even considered at the top of their/the game...stfu

relax champ

[Fox McCloud]

I think we should ask JRo what the 2008 P4P rankings were

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...r_Pound--2000s

#8 at the end of 06 (the year before he fought him) and 07 (when he fought him).

[cupocity303]

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Floyd fought 2 guys that did nothing at 147. So what that they are P4P rated as you stated.

So by that mentality, Marvin Hagler fought a bunch of guys who did nothing at Middleweight. While great (Duran, Hearns), they were irrelevant at 160 right?

And he lost to a Sugar Ray Leonard who not only did nothing at 160 but did nothing at all in boxing for years.

Congratulations, you just shat on a huge percentage of Hagler's resume.


P.S. I could give plenty of examples of smaller great fighters moving up to face bigger great fighters to dispose that silly little argument. The notion that you only get credit if you face natural contenders of your present weight class is ridiculous.