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  • Joeyzagz
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    #71
    Originally posted by Money Shot
    Wlad can easily make a cautious fight and win on the cards. I doubt he gets cut from an illegal shot like his brother in 03, too ring wise.
    Before I read this comment I was thinking TKO 5 or 6, but come to think of it, Wlad may not survive the 2nd round.

    Wlad relies on holding way more than his brother and Its suicide to hold a guy like Lennox. He will spark the fck out of you like he did Vitali and Michael Grant. It may not be the most legal thing in the world, but neither is clinching...so dont do it!

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    • Money Shot
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      #72
      Originally posted by hweightblogger


      Frank Bruno: 6'3'', KOratio against better opponents 60%+
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      who did Bruno KO that was any good Carl Williams, an ancient Bugner? After that you're down to Pierre Coetzer, a cruiserweight. No resume at all.

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        #73
        Originally posted by JoeyZagz
        Before I read this comment I was thinking TKO 5 or 6, but come to think of it, Wlad may not survive the 2nd round.

        Wlad relies on holding way more than his brother and Its suicide to hold a guy like Lennox. He will spark the fck out of you like he did Vitali and Michael Grant. It may not be the most legal thing in the world, but neither is clinching...so dont do it!


        Wlad isn't nearly as dirty a fighter as Lewis, that is all you are correct on. If you think Lewis can take Wlad's best punch you're as drunk as he was against McCall in 94. Wlad unloads that left hook and Lewis is...

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          #74
          Originally posted by Jimbo16031992
          In pure boxing skills, they're at a similar level (Emmanuel Steward actually said Wlad's the more skilled) but Lewis has the power, toughness and is(was) just generally better.
          uh Wlad has more power than Lewis, that's pretty obvious.

          They're similar in some regards in pure boxing skills-wise, but Lewis was a much better in fighter. If Lewis allows Wlad to fight him from the outside, it will be early night for Lewis and Wlad will annihilate him with brutal right hand bomb to the chin like Rahman or Mccall did, but if Wlad allows Lewis to tie him up and fight on the inside then Lewis will ravage and tire him with vicious uppercuts and KTFO him.

          The better question is who's corner would Manny Steward be in if these guys fought?

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            #75
            Originally posted by etlux
            uh Wlad has more power than Lewis, that's pretty obvious.

            They're similar in some regards in pure boxing skills-wise, but Lewis was a much better in fighter. If Lewis allows Wlad to fight him from the outside, it will be early night for Lewis and Wlad will annihilate him with brutal right hand bomb to the chin like Rahman or Mccall did, but if Wlad allows Lewis to tie him up and fight on the inside then Lewis will ravage and tire him with vicious uppercuts and KTFO him.

            The better question is who's corner would Manny Steward be in if these guys fought?
            I think you are underestimating Lennox's jab and his huge reach. An outside fight against Lewis would not be an easy fight for anybody.

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              #76
              Originally posted by PrinceNaz88
              I think you are underestimating Lennox's jab and his huge reach. An outside fight against Lewis would not be an easy fight for anybody.
              not underestimating it but you are underestimating wlad's outside reach and jab power if you think Lewis can take him out from the outside

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                #77
                Originally posted by PrinceNaz88
                I think you are underestimating Lennox's jab and his huge reach. An outside fight against Lewis would not be an easy fight for anybody.
                Well, 7 people survived Wlad (in nearly 60 fights), whereas 10 people survived Lennox (in 42 real heavyweight fights). It's approximately twice as likely to survive Lennox than Wlad.
                Last edited by hweightblogger; 01-10-2011, 09:39 PM.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by hweightblogger
                  Add to it that Lennox scored only 31 KOs (in 200x2 fights) (against an average opponent 228 lbs) while Wlad scored 49 (and counting) KOs (233 lbs) and it underlines again who has more fun going for the KO.
                  No one agrees with your false premise! Fat does not equal quality. Even Wlads best opponent weighed only 213 lbs.

                  If the boxing gods decide to make a 200-220 division called supercruiserweight, Wlads best win wont even be considered a legit win anymore.

                  Heavyweight means the same thing it meant in 1892: (No Limits) Fighters come in as heavy or as light as they want and its fair game.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by etlux
                    not underestimating it but you are underestimating wlad's outside reach and jab power if you think Lewis can take him out from the outside
                    Well it certainly would not of been an 'early night' for Lewis. I respect Wlad's jab and reach too but it is no better than Lewis'.


                    Originally posted by hweightblogger
                    Well 7 people survived Wlad (in nearly 60 fights), whereas 10 people survived Lennox (in 42 real heavyweight fights). It's approximately twice as likely to survive Lennox than Wlad.
                    Thanks for that statto

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by JoeyZagz
                      No one agrees with your false premise! Fat does not equal quality.
                      Offtopic.


                      Originally posted by JoeyZagz
                      Heavyweight means the same thing it meant in 1892
                      "Heavyweight" does not mean the same as 1892.

                      Moreover: Offtopic.

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