Do you consider pacquiao's 8th belt legitimate?

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  • Needles
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    #21
    Originally posted by Russian Crushin
    Children grow up and actually follow boxing and stop trolling

    Its at 147 for Pacs belt
    the 145-lb special diamond belt?

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    • ModernTalking
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      #22
      Originally posted by Needles
      talking about floyd right away i see? he isnt even mentioned on the original post
      *****s are butt hurt that Floyd is only a 5 divisions champ.

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      • Khalid X
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        #23
        Originally posted by Demise
        Pac should just quit if he's going to fuck around with catchweights.

        I hate the fact that in the future he's going to be regarded as a phenom, even though he obtained his legacy via restricting other fighters. If he holds a title of a division he should not be putting limits on how much his opposition weighs, as long as it's within the weight class - it should be fine.

        Dude just defending his WBO Welterweight strap against Clottey, Mosley in the spring.....and in the fall, more than likely Mayweather/Berto.

        Now if you wanna talk about the 154 strap, well time will tell if he is a legit champ. If he faces a top guy there....then I consider him a legit champ.

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          #24
          Originally posted by -Top Rank-
          Dude just defending his WBO Welterweight strap against Clottey, Mosley in the spring.....and in the fall, more than likely Mayweather/Berto.

          Now if you wanna talk about the 154 strap, well time will tell if he is a legit champ. If he faces a top guy there....then I consider him a legit champ.
          Fuck him defending a Welterweight title and not allowing his opposition to weigh within the limit.

          Do you defend his catchweight fiasco?

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            #25
            Originally posted by Demise
            Fuck him defending a Welterweight title and not allowing his opposition to weigh within the limit.

            Do you defend his catchweight fiasco?
            Pacquiao has never defended his WW title at a catchweight, what are you talking about?

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              #26
              Originally posted by -Top Rank-
              Pacquiao has never defended his WW title at a catchweight, what are you talking about?
              He won it via a catchweight, then fought Clottey at the actual weight.

              Is he going to fight Mosley at the actual weight?

              I guess he might, seeing as Mosley is completely shot. Shame he had to let Floyd ' test the water '.

              Why couldn't he let Cotto come in at 147? But allowed to Clottey to?

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                #27
                Originally posted by Needles
                If so, why? was margarito a legitimate contender? does a catchweight of 150 give merit to it?

                if not, do you think he should forfeit his belt?
                Niether the Cotto belt or the Margarito belt are IMO legit. Pac has won the fights but weight draining fighters to get an advantage isnt the way any other fighter oin History has done it.

                1. Facing Cotto, Clottey, Margarito and now Mosley has opened my eyes to the scam that Pac and Arum are running. To go back further facing Hatton and Diaz at 140 was an even easier calculation because they were the weakest title holders out there. Bradley, Alexander, Holt, Juan Diaz and Nate Campbell were all better competition than Hatton whom Mayweather had just exposed and nobody besides Zab Judah even knew who David Diaz was.

                2. Catchweights for a big profit is what it is. If you want the money then sign on the dotted line. This will hamper your performance but you will get riches.

                3. Hopefully the public is starting to realize how fabricated this run Pac is on. He refused to fight Yuri Foreman because he was too tall kinda like Martinez whom also happens to be the same size as Margarito. Anyone with skills want get a fight. Now who could I be talking about.
                1. Marquez= asking for too much money less than Mosley but too much.
                2. Berto= Not none eventhough he is an HBO fighter and has a belt at 147.
                3. Martinez= too big and would have too come down to 147. BS
                4. Bradley= who knows what the excuse will be.
                5. Alexander= who knows what the excuse will be.
                6. Khan= were trained by the same guy.
                Last edited by EMACULATE; 01-09-2011, 05:14 AM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Demise
                  He won it via a catchweight, then fought Clottey at the actual weight.

                  Is he going to fight Mosley at the actual weight?

                  I guess he might, seeing as Mosley is completely shot. Shame he had to let Floyd ' test the water '.

                  Why couldn't he let Cotto come in at 147? But allowed to Clottey to?
                  Nobody knew Manny would be able to handle a full fledge WW. Prior to the Hatton fight, everyone in his camp thought 140 was the highest he could be competitive at, but once he KO'd Hatton, they tested the waters with Cotto at 145.

                  If Manny would have dominated Clottey prior to the Cotto fight....then the Cotto fight would have been at 147 as well.

                  Maybe Pacquiao should rematch him in the fall to kill any arguments that the catchweight hurt Cotto. It would also kill the argument that his belt isn't legit because if he win against Miguel, then he would unify two titles.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                    Children grow up and actually follow boxing and stop trolling

                    Its at 147 for Pacs belt
                    And they have the nerve to call themselves boxing fans posting as if everything they say here are gospel truth.

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                    • D-MiZe
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by -Top Rank-
                      Nobody knew Manny would be able to handle a full fledge WW. Prior to the Hatton fight, everyone in his camp thought 140 was the highest he could be competitive at, but once he KO'd Hatton, they tested the waters with Cotto at 145.

                      If Manny would have dominated Clottey prior to the Cotto fight....then the Cotto fight would have been at 147 as well.

                      Maybe Pacquiao should rematch him in the fall to kill any arguments that the catchweight hurt Cotto. It would also kill the argument that his belt isn't legit because if he win against Miguel, then he would unify two titles.
                      I just don't like the fact he's done what he was done with catchweights involved.

                      He should've taken the risk at 147 against Cotto, that's what legacy is all about - taking big risks.

                      Fuck Cotto-Pac II, Cotto should stay up at 154.

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