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  • jeg77
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    #81
    Originally posted by oc9979
    At the time that Tito fought him, most boxing expert were talking about Reid fighting Jones, Hopkins, Trinidad, or De La Hoya.
    I have the fight the commentators did'nt even give Tito a chance.

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    • El Chicano
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      #82
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      Dangerous in what way?

      And, was Reid not considered dangerous at the time?

      @ you people.
      No, not really, not at the elite level and with one good eye. To call him untested was an understatement. He only had 7 stoppages at the time and he dropped Tito too, LMAO.

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        #83
        Originally posted by jeg77
        I have the fight the commentators did'nt even give Tito a chance.
        Was it Ferdie Pacheco? God I can't stand that guy.

        Trinidad was the solid betting favorite over Reid. The odds were much closer in the Vargas bout.

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          #84
          Originally posted by PED User
          Reid looked pretty vulnerable in a title defense against Kevin Kelly (not the featherweight).

          I was much more impressed with Vargas than Reid. Vargas showed more skills, Reid was just more athletic.
          But, homeboy meant the other Kevin Kelly, that is why he made that comment "what was his best again"

          And, yes I agree. I was more impressed with Vargas pre Tito then Reid. Not only did Vargas beat the better opponents but like you mentioned he showed more skills doing it. I would not argue that fact.

          But, Vargas was just never the same after Tito. The Tito fight took a lot out of him. And, even if you want to say that Oscar against that version of Vargas was better than that version of Reid. Then fine, but what other win of Oscar at 154 is just as good as Reid at 154 for Tito?

          So to downplay the Reid win like if it was nothing is ridiculous IMO while Oscar gets credit for beating Vargas who had never beaten anybody of note up to that point at 154.

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            #85
            Originally posted by oc9979
            At the time that Tito fought him, most boxing expert were talking about Reid fighting Jones, Hopkins, Trinidad, or De La Hoya.
            Originally posted by jeg77
            I have the fight the commentators did'nt even give Tito a chance.
            Call it hype, and Ferdie Pacheco was one of the best at it. Oscar would have never been dropped by Reid and probably would have stopped him.

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              #86
              Originally posted by PED User
              Was it Ferdie Pacheco? God I can't stand that guy.

              Trinidad was the solid betting favorite over Reid. The odds were much closer in the Vargas bout.
              Cant really recall but he was pretty annoying "There goes Reid boping jabs of the top of Trinidads head".

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                #87
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                But, homeboy meant the other Kevin Kelly, that is why he made that comment "what was his best again"

                And, yes I agree. I was more impressed with Vargas pre Tito then Reid. Not only did Vargas beat the better opponents but like you mentioned he showed more skills doing it. I would not argue that fact.

                But, Vargas was just never the same after Tito. The Tito fight took a lot out of him. And, even if you want to say that Oscar against that version of Vargas was better than that version of Reid. Then fine, but what other win of Oscar at 154 is just as good as Reid at 154 for Tito?

                So to downplay the Reid win like if it was nothing is ridiculous IMO while Oscar gets credit for beating Vargas who had never beaten anybody of note up to that point at 154.
                The other Kevin Kelly probably would have done better than the Kevin Kelly Reid fought, LMAO... Dude was a bum.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by M@nny
                  No, not really, not at the elite level and with one good eye. To call him untested was an understatement. He only had 7 stoppages at the time and he dropped Tito too, LMAO.
                  Who didn't drop Tito? Besides Oscar? WTF does that mean? But, OK...

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                    #89
                    [QUOTE=Mr. Fantastic;9906985]LMAO!!! Vargas at least did something. Reid the great destroyer of Kevin Kelly. The guy who's best fighting weight wassssss??

                    Well in that case then Tito's win over Vargas shouldn't be counted. [/
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                    Why would it not be counted? Oscar wanted no part of Vargas and always said "he would never fight him". Not until after the beating that Trinidad gave Vargas. As well as after Vargas looking shaky getting dropped by Journeyman Wilfredo Riviera. Oscar suddenly changed his mind and wanted the fight.

                    Delahoya always had a way of avoiding fights until he felt the opponent was vulnerable. That's exactly what he did with Quartey as well. A lot of people felt he still deserved to lose that fight too.
                    Last edited by joseph5620; 01-05-2011, 12:01 AM.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by M@nny
                      The other Kevin Kelly probably would have done better than the Kevin Kelly Reid fought, LMAO... Dude was a bum.
                      The other Kevin Kelley(featherweight) would of done just against both that version of Reid and that version of Vargas that Oscar fought.

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