De La Hoya would never fight guys at their weight and made them move up or down to unnatural weight classes in order to land the Golden Boy payday. This was the case with Genaro Hernandez, Miguel Angel Gonzalez, John-John Molina, and Bernard Hopkins.
2nd best resume ever!!! WOW!!! Win lose or draw!!!
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[QUOTE=joseph5620;9907139]Oscar fed off Tito's leftovers.LMAO!!! Vargas at least did something. Reid the great destroyer of Kevin Kelly. The guy who's best fighting weight wassssss??
Well in that case then Tito's win over Vargas shouldn't be counted.
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Why would it not be counted? Oscar wanted no part of Vargas and always said "he would never fight him". Not until after the beating that Trinidad gave Vargas. As well as after Vargas looking shaky getting dropped by Journeyman Wilfredo Riviera. Oscar suddenly changed his mind and wanted the fight.
Delahoya always had a way of avoiding fights until he felt the opponent was vulnerable. That's exactly what he did with Quartey as well. A lot of people felt he still deserved to lose that fight too.
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You keep trying to put this weight class spin in your comparison of Tito and Oscar's resumes... you seem to forget that Oscar fought as low as Jr Lightweight and Tito started his career as a Jr Welterweight. So if you wanna make a fair comparison, then you should compare Oscar's fights at 147+ to Tito's fights at 160+.But, homeboy meant the other Kevin Kelly, that is why he made that comment "what was his best again"
And, yes I agree. I was more impressed with Vargas pre Tito then Reid. Not only did Vargas beat the better opponents but like you mentioned he showed more skills doing it. I would not argue that fact.
But, Vargas was just never the same after Tito. The Tito fight took a lot out of him. And, even if you want to say that Oscar against that version of Vargas was better than that version of Reid. Then fine, but what other win of Oscar at 154 is just as good as Reid at 154 for Tito?
So to downplay the Reid win like if it was nothing is ridiculous IMO while Oscar gets credit for beating Vargas who had never beaten anybody of note up to that point at 154.Comment
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Yeah, I couldn't stand that guy either, lol at dude trying to support his argument with what Ferdie Pacheco was saying before the fight.Comment
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Show me where I made a career comparison or resume?You keep trying to put this weight class spin in your comparison of Tito and Oscar's resumes... you seem to forget that Oscar fought as low as Jr Lightweight and Tito started his career as a Jr Welterweight. So if you wanna make a fair comparison, then you should compare Oscar's fights at 147+ to Tito's fights at 160+.
Go back and read my first comment in this thread, and see what my comment was about.
Again my argument here is that don't downplay Tito win over Reid. Because, that win is just as good or better than any other win Oscar has at 154+
So if we going to be downplaying that win for Tito then lets downplay Oscar whole run above 147.Comment
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Mosely was jucing and really adding Trinidad if Oscar lost in your opinion to Molina, Strum and Quartey then be real and dont add trinidad to his losesOscar never won a big fight, by far most overrated gay fighter in history. Such a manly sport of boxing, and grown men jizzed their pants for his good looks, not his boxing ability.
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Shane Mosley
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In boxing, going 5-5 is losing most of your fights. Going .500 isn't good at all. And I'll say he went 6-4, because he definitely beat Tito. Mediocre. He was a very good fighter, but hardly an all time great.Comment
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