2nd best resume ever!!! WOW!!! Win lose or draw!!!

[Cafe]

Damn dude you are a nut case!! You say Oscar lost To Molina? Quartey? you cant even spell Quartey?Whitaker? Come on dude stop smoking that crack, and I dont even like Oscar!!

He never won a big fight, those are all big fights, they dont just mean Mosley and Trinidad LOL

[Thread Stealer]

Damn dude you are a nut case!! You say Oscar lost To Molina? Quartey? you cant even spell Quartey?Whitaker? Come on dude stop smoking that crack, and I dont even like Oscar!!

De La Hoya was fortunate to get the nod over Quartey. Almost everyone remembers the last round and how badly Quartey was hurt, and forgets how many rounds Oscar spent standing there, doing nothing. Quartey wasn't a ball of offense either, but he was doing better work for the majority of the fight than Oscar.

The Whitaker fight was very close and I had little problem with Oscar winning it, but 9-3 is excessive.

The decision over Molina was fair. Molina should've had some points deducted for his excessive rabbit-punching.

[El Chicano]

You think El Feroz was the same after Tito? really? LMAO, please tell me you were joking man.

And, again Reid>any win Oscar has not named Vargas at 154 and 160. And, Vargas was ruined after Tito. Look how Vargas looked against Quartey, Campas, Winky, then see how he looked against light hitting Rivera and the great Shibata Flores.

And, for argument sake lets say that version of Vargas win was better than the Reid win. What other win was better? Campas? really that version? Mayorga who did he beat at 154? Castillejo? really? GTFOH with you down playing Reid.

Can you really measure a boxer's fighting state by accessing the damage they received in previous fights? You should work for the NSAC or something... But really though, you all are purely speculating when you do that. Besides, Vargas went on to win another World title and stop both guys you just mentioned. Even after Oscar, he went on to defeat Javier Castillejo who later went on to KO Felix Sturm for a Middleweight strap. What did David Reid do? Dude was not really going to get that far in his career, that was a given and was exposed at the elite level vs Tito. He had a couple fights after that, nothing special and disappeared into obscurity. Vargas was and will always be remembered as the better fighter between the two. The Reid win doesn't even compare to the Genaro Hernandez or Rafa Ruelas wins on Oscar's resume.

[jrosales13]

LMAO!!! Vargas at least did something. Reid the great destroyer of Kevin Kelly. The guy who's best fighting weight wassssss??

Kevin Kelly? What are you talking about?

And, when did Vargas do something? Pre or post Tito?

Well in that case then Tito's win over Vargas shouldn't be counted.

What? OK,

[Cafe]

Molina, wasn't fair, they were talking about Molina bringing a fight to De La Hoya, probaly his first real test and all he did was complain, one round he even yelled help to Mills Lane LOL what Molina did was take the fight to Oscar and he won it. A gift. He never won a big fight in his lyfe.

[jrosales13]

He wasn't 100% but he was still dangerous. Not destroyed like you people call it.

Dangerous in what way?

And, was Reid not considered dangerous at the time?

@ you people.

[Thread Stealer]

Kevin Kelly? What are you talking about?

Reid looked pretty vulnerable in a title defense against Kevin Kelly (not the featherweight).

I was much more impressed with Vargas than Reid. Vargas showed more skills, Reid was just more athletic.

[oc9979]

Can you really measure a boxer's fighting state by accessing the damage they received in previous fights? You should work for the NSAC or something... But really though, you all are purely speculating when you do that. Besides, Vargas went on to win another World title and stop both guys you just mentioned. Even after Oscar, he went on to defeat Javier Castillejo who later went on to KO Felix Sturm for a Middleweight strap. What did David Reid do? Dude was not really going to get that far in his career, that was a given and was exposed at the elite level vs Tito. He had a couple fights after that, nothing special and disappeared into obscurity. Vargas was and will always be remembered as the better fighter between the two. The Reid win doesn't even compare to the Genaro Hernandez or Rafa Ruelas wins on Oscar's resume.

Reid did not do anything else because the fact is that his detached retina affected him for the rest of his short career.

[oc9979]

Dangerous in what way?

And, was Reid not considered dangerous at the time?

@ you people.

At the time that Tito fought him, most boxing expert were talking about Reid fighting Jones, Hopkins, Trinidad, or De La Hoya.

[jrosales13]

Can you really measure a boxer's fighting state by accessing the damage they received in previous fights? You should work for the NSAC or something... But really though, you all are purely speculating when you do that. Besides, Vargas went on to win another World title and stop both guys you just mentioned. Even after Oscar, he went on to defeat Javier Castillejo who later went on to KO Felix Sturm for a Middleweight strap. What did David Reid do? Dude was not really going to get that far in his career, that was a given and was exposed at the elite level vs Tito. He had a couple fights after that, nothing special and disappeared into obscurity. Vargas was and will always be remembered as the better fighter between the two. The Reid win doesn't even compare to the Genaro Hernandez or Rafa Ruelas wins on Oscar's resume.

And, what the hell has Sturm done? WTf makes Castillejo KO'ing make such a great argument? Just curious cuz' if you look besides the over hype Oscar fight WTF has Sturm done? Split 2 fights against Castillejo(who was not better than Reid) and beat Sylvester(really) and then what? He is going to fight Ronald Hearns, might as well fight Thomas Hearns that would be more competitve. And, KO'ing this guy is suppose to mean something?

Of course Vargas won a title after Tito, so what? You calling Reid a bum but yet not recognizing he had a title and he got that by beating title holder Boudouani. It wasn't vacant like Vargas was after Tito and not only that Boudouani was better than "Shibata" and was on the same level of a Castillejo. So is funny you trying to give credit to Vargas for what he did after Tito but not really so much to Reid for basically accomplishing the same thing pre Tito that Vargas did post Tito.

Yes Reid was not going to get far cuz' of his eye. That is why he was put up against Tito quit quickly due to the eye injury he suffered in the amateurs against Daniel Santos. But, he was not a bad fighter at all.

And, who is talking about Ruelas or Chicanito? Nobody is comparing Reid to any of Oscar opponents at 147 and below, the comparison is at 154 and 160.