Why a lot of people think Pac is juicing? Look inside ...

[straightleft]

Pac haters already pretty made up their mind. Can't see the truth and won't listen to anybody. Floyd as of now quiet as dead regarding about the fight was a dog tucking tail between his butt sign.

[Needles]

I had no real issues with him asking for Cotto at 145. It may have hurt Miguel, maybe it didn't but he weighed 146 for his previous fight and looked fine. But nevertheless, the testing didn't begin with the commission. And there's nothing wrong with asking. There is something wrong, however, with making up excuses and weirdness.

agreed. you knows funny i have never seen a man prance around / sugar coat / lie and go through so many excuses in refusing a drug test. He even went as far as sue the skeptics for defamation . meanwhile, he has no qualms with people calling him an adulterer or dirty politician. dude is hiding something man

[Chups]

OH....ahahahaaha it's from PEDRO!

[straightleft]

agreed. you knows funny i have never seen a man prance around / sugar coat / lie and go through so many excuses in refusing a drug test. He even went as far as sue the skeptics for defamation . meanwhile, he has no qualms with people calling him an adulterer or dirty politician. dude is hiding something man

Hey! Floyd, where are you? Don't be like that man nowhere to be found and so quiet as dead. Don't leave your fans behind!

[pasawayako]

Just come upon this article and it's a very interesting read.

Pacquiao is one of the highest weight climbers in the history of the sport, what seperates him from the rest of the weight climbers is that Pacquiao is shorter than the others and Pacquiao remained just as muscular and ripped as he climbed while the others looked softer and even fat.

I got a list of the highest weight climbers and what % weight they put on from the time their bodies matured, a typical male body stops growing at age 21, this means your skeletal frame stops growing in height and your body is pretty much filled out by that age.

M.A.Barrera and E.Morales matured at 122lbs, they had success up to 130lbs,a 6% weight gain for both, neither looked ripped at 130lbs…

J.M.Marquez matured at 126 lbs, had success up to 135 lbs, a 7% weight gain, still looked pretty fit at 135lbs…

Julio C.Chavez matured at 130 lbs, had success up to 140 lbs, an 8% weight gain, didn’t look ripped at 140lbs…

Floyd Mayweather matured at 130lbs, had succes up to 150lbs vs DLH, a 15% weight gain, still looked fit at 150 but not ripped…

Pernell Whittaker matured at 135lbs, had success up to 154lbs, a 14% weight gain, actually had a roll of fat around his waist for his 1 fight at 154lbs…

Roberto Duran matured at 135 lbs, had success up to 157lbs against I.Barkley, a 16% weight gain, was pudgy and even fat at this weight, even looked soft at 154lbs…

O.DeLaHoya matured at 135lbs, had success up to 154lbs, a 14% weight gain, looked normal, not ripped at 154lbs…

S.R.Leonard matured at 147lbs, had success up to 165lbs vs D.Lalonde, a 12% weight gain, looked fit at 165…

Thomas hearns, matured at 147lbs, had success as high as 174lbs vs V.Hill, an 18% weight gain, looked fit but not ripped at 174lbs…

Roy Jones Jr matured at 160lbs, had success up to 193lbs vs J.Ruiz, a 21% weight gain, looked ripped at 193lbs…

and finally there’s Manny Pacquiao, matured at 122lbs when he was 21yrs old, and has had success up to 144lbs vs M.Cotto, an 18% weight gain, looked ripped at 144lbs.

The top % weight gainers are in order R.Jones 21%, T.Hearns 18%, M.Pacquiao 18%, R.Duran 16%, F.Mayweather 15%, O.DeLaHoya 14%, P.Whittaker 14%…..Of these 7 names Duran and Whittaker looked fat at their highest weight, ONLY Jones and Pacquiao STILL looked ripped at their highest weight, and remember that Jones was later revealed to have used steroids in his career.

Of these 7 names Hearns was the tallest, at 6 foot 1 it’s a lot easier to put on weight, compared to Pacquiao who is the shortest of the 7 at 5 foot 6, yet Hearns and Pacquiao both put on 18% weight gains each.This is why knowledgeable people are suspecting Pacquiao of juicing, something is just not right here, a man should not gain 18% weight and stay ripped on boxing training while retaining all his speed and gaining power.

There’s an old saying in boxing that goes ”A great big man will beat a great small man always”, Pac has broken this golden rule of boxing by losing at the lighter weights to M.Singsurat, E.Morales and (IMO)J.M.Marquez twice, these were natural 112,122 and 126lbers, and now suddenly Pac is demolishing natural 135-140lbers D.Diaz, DLH, R.Hatton and M.Cotto with ease.

IMO Pac is on the juice, but due to UFC competition boxing needs the excitement and huge PPV buys right now, the truth will come out in the future when it doesn’t matter anymore.

http://ringtalk.com/manny-pacquiao-steroids-3-4

The truth is that pacquiao is just that good and the GOAT.

[pasawayako]

see why i said u are a mayweather fan earlier???? either that or u just a pacquiao hater. which 1 is it?

imdazed is just a floyd fan and a pac hater and he's been dizzy trying to make a reason on how to downgrade pac.

[deuce_drop]

Just come upon this article and it's a very interesting read.

Pacquiao is one of the highest weight climbers in the history of the sport, what seperates him from the rest of the weight climbers is that Pacquiao is shorter than the others and Pacquiao remained just as muscular and ripped as he climbed while the others looked softer and even fat.

I got a list of the highest weight climbers and what % weight they put on from the time their bodies matured, a typical male body stops growing at age 21, this means your skeletal frame stops growing in height and your body is pretty much filled out by that age.

M.A.Barrera and E.Morales matured at 122lbs, they had success up to 130lbs,a 6% weight gain for both, neither looked ripped at 130lbs…

J.M.Marquez matured at 126 lbs, had success up to 135 lbs, a 7% weight gain, still looked pretty fit at 135lbs…

Julio C.Chavez matured at 130 lbs, had success up to 140 lbs, an 8% weight gain, didn’t look ripped at 140lbs…

Floyd Mayweather matured at 130lbs, had succes up to 150lbs vs DLH, a 15% weight gain, still looked fit at 150 but not ripped…

Pernell Whittaker matured at 135lbs, had success up to 154lbs, a 14% weight gain, actually had a roll of fat around his waist for his 1 fight at 154lbs…

Roberto Duran matured at 135 lbs, had success up to 157lbs against I.Barkley, a 16% weight gain, was pudgy and even fat at this weight, even looked soft at 154lbs…

O.DeLaHoya matured at 135lbs, had success up to 154lbs, a 14% weight gain, looked normal, not ripped at 154lbs…

S.R.Leonard matured at 147lbs, had success up to 165lbs vs D.Lalonde, a 12% weight gain, looked fit at 165…

Thomas hearns, matured at 147lbs, had success as high as 174lbs vs V.Hill, an 18% weight gain, looked fit but not ripped at 174lbs…

Roy Jones Jr matured at 160lbs, had success up to 193lbs vs J.Ruiz, a 21% weight gain, looked ripped at 193lbs…

and finally there’s Manny Pacquiao, matured at 122lbs when he was 21yrs old, and has had success up to 144lbs vs M.Cotto, an 18% weight gain, looked ripped at 144lbs.

The top % weight gainers are in order R.Jones 21%, T.Hearns 18%, M.Pacquiao 18%, R.Duran 16%, F.Mayweather 15%, O.DeLaHoya 14%, P.Whittaker 14%…..Of these 7 names Duran and Whittaker looked fat at their highest weight, ONLY Jones and Pacquiao STILL looked ripped at their highest weight, and remember that Jones was later revealed to have used steroids in his career.

Of these 7 names Hearns was the tallest, at 6 foot 1 it’s a lot easier to put on weight, compared to Pacquiao who is the shortest of the 7 at 5 foot 6, yet Hearns and Pacquiao both put on 18% weight gains each.This is why knowledgeable people are suspecting Pacquiao of juicing, something is just not right here, a man should not gain 18% weight and stay ripped on boxing training while retaining all his speed and gaining power.

There’s an old saying in boxing that goes ”A great big man will beat a great small man always”, Pac has broken this golden rule of boxing by losing at the lighter weights to M.Singsurat, E.Morales and (IMO)J.M.Marquez twice, these were natural 112,122 and 126lbers, and now suddenly Pac is demolishing natural 135-140lbers D.Diaz, DLH, R.Hatton and M.Cotto with ease.

IMO Pac is on the juice, but due to UFC competition boxing needs the excitement and huge PPV buys right now, the truth will come out in the future when it doesn’t matter anymore.

http://ringtalk.com/manny-pacquiao-steroids-3-4

as with almost all boxers, all these guys dropped weight to fight where they were their best at, to keep boxing they're all going to gain weight as they get older.

pacquiao and fighters like him starting young you only have one way to move in boxing as far as weight is concerned and that is up!

this whole drug testing thing is a farce and a joke at best, nothing but a distraction, and people throwing stones and accusations with no evidence are aiding in the joke and besmirching boxing.

the fighters and doping isnt the issue that is wrong with boxing, they catch cheats all the time with the existing testing, what about the god damn corruption with judges and refs, etc that really discredits boxing.

some cheat and get away with it and other don't. it's going to be like that forever no matter what, but something that can be changed and something that can be make boxing better is testing for judges, a policing of judges and refs, who the hell is watching the watchers!?!?!?

so lets not get distracted with this ****** crap and lets get to the focus of what is killing boxing, and i'll tell you what, it isnt drugs or cheating because of drugs, it's the myriad of multilevel corruption that EVERYONE WHO IS STUCK ON THIS DRUG TESTING CRAP IS OVERLOOKING!!!!!!!!!

wake the **** up!!!!

[pasawayako]

lol@haters who are so desperate to convince the other that pac is on peds, sorry haters until the last breath of your life u will never find any evidence that pac is on peds and pac will be remembered by the people as the greater fighter compared to floyd, just accept the truth haters that pac is just that good and i'm sure it will make u feel better, trust me.

[ALG United]

Just come upon this article and it's a very interesting read.

Pacquiao is one of the highest weight climbers in the history of the sport, what seperates him from the rest of the weight climbers is that Pacquiao is shorter than the others and Pacquiao remained just as muscular and ripped as he climbed while the others looked softer and even fat.

I got a list of the highest weight climbers and what % weight they put on from the time their bodies matured, a typical male body stops growing at age 21, this means your skeletal frame stops growing in height and your body is pretty much filled out by that age.

M.A.Barrera and E.Morales matured at 122lbs, they had success up to 130lbs,a 6% weight gain for both, neither looked ripped at 130lbs…

J.M.Marquez matured at 126 lbs, had success up to 135 lbs, a 7% weight gain, still looked pretty fit at 135lbs…

Julio C.Chavez matured at 130 lbs, had success up to 140 lbs, an 8% weight gain, didn’t look ripped at 140lbs…

Floyd Mayweather matured at 130lbs, had succes up to 150lbs vs DLH, a 15% weight gain, still looked fit at 150 but not ripped…

Pernell Whittaker matured at 135lbs, had success up to 154lbs, a 14% weight gain, actually had a roll of fat around his waist for his 1 fight at 154lbs…

Roberto Duran matured at 135 lbs, had success up to 157lbs against I.Barkley, a 16% weight gain, was pudgy and even fat at this weight, even looked soft at 154lbs…

O.DeLaHoya matured at 135lbs, had success up to 154lbs, a 14% weight gain, looked normal, not ripped at 154lbs…

S.R.Leonard matured at 147lbs, had success up to 165lbs vs D.Lalonde, a 12% weight gain, looked fit at 165…

Thomas hearns, matured at 147lbs, had success as high as 174lbs vs V.Hill, an 18% weight gain, looked fit but not ripped at 174lbs…

Roy Jones Jr matured at 160lbs, had success up to 193lbs vs J.Ruiz, a 21% weight gain, looked ripped at 193lbs…

and finally there’s Manny Pacquiao, matured at 122lbs when he was 21yrs old, and has had success up to 144lbs vs M.Cotto, an 18% weight gain, looked ripped at 144lbs.

The top % weight gainers are in order R.Jones 21%, T.Hearns 18%, M.Pacquiao 18%, R.Duran 16%, F.Mayweather 15%, O.DeLaHoya 14%, P.Whittaker 14%…..Of these 7 names Duran and Whittaker looked fat at their highest weight, ONLY Jones and Pacquiao STILL looked ripped at their highest weight, and remember that Jones was later revealed to have used steroids in his career.

Of these 7 names Hearns was the tallest, at 6 foot 1 it’s a lot easier to put on weight, compared to Pacquiao who is the shortest of the 7 at 5 foot 6, yet Hearns and Pacquiao both put on 18% weight gains each.This is why knowledgeable people are suspecting Pacquiao of juicing, something is just not right here, a man should not gain 18% weight and stay ripped on boxing training while retaining all his speed and gaining power.

There’s an old saying in boxing that goes ”A great big man will beat a great small man always”, Pac has broken this golden rule of boxing by losing at the lighter weights to M.Singsurat, E.Morales and (IMO)J.M.Marquez twice, these were natural 112,122 and 126lbers, and now suddenly Pac is demolishing natural 135-140lbers D.Diaz, DLH, R.Hatton and M.Cotto with ease.

IMO Pac is on the juice, but due to UFC competition boxing needs the excitement and huge PPV buys right now, the truth will come out in the future when it doesn’t matter anymore.

http://ringtalk.com/manny-pacquiao-steroids-3-4

Manny Pacquiao: “I feel like I don’t need Mayweather to make my career. I fought the best and anyone willing to face me. I want it, and feel the fans deserve the Mayweather fight. I want to prove to everyone that it wasn’t me who didn’t want the fight. That’s why I made the concession to take anything [blood tests] he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round if he wanted! What else can I do? I hope we get the fight done soon. Let’s get it on.”

http://beatsboxingmayhem.wordpress.c...tics-as-usual/

[Needles]

the general public who aren't filipinos and *******s think he's su****ious with his test ducking. neutral fans or any outsider often scratch their heads when explained why the fight hasn't happened..

basically it goes like

outsider "why hasn't the fight happened yet"

fan "well pacquiao doesnt like the testing"

outsider "why not?"

fan "well first he is superstitious, well WAIT, let me correct that he actually thinkts it'll weaken him.. no wait, he said on another interview he just wants to follow comission rules.. oh wait.. he actually said he wont take the test because floyd is scared.. go figure it yourself"

outsider "what's wrong with testing? and why does he have so many excuses?"

verdict: dude is su****ious and most likely guilty.