Sugar Ray Leonard VS Mayweather,pick one plz

[BoxingTech718]

I got SRL in a chess match victory.

[BennyST]

Travdog you speak the truth. The hate some of these posters have for Floyd has blinded them. If Floyd beat Margarito, Margarito wouldve definitely got the Baldo treatment. They would bring up Margs losses and his handwrap scandal in order to discredit Floyd. If FLoyd decisioned Cotto they would say he couldnt knock Cotto out the way PAc or Margarito did.

I agree Floyd hasnt fought anyone of a hearns or duran level but what fighter today is on a Hearns or Duran level? None. I think Pacquiao is the closest thing we have to a modern era atg and even if Floyd were to beat him people would say his resume doesnt match up to SRL. SRL openly stated he waited for Hagler to deteriorate and he did avoid Pryor but if Floyd does something similar hes vilified.
I believe some of the criticism Floyd gets is deserved but most of it is just blind hate. When it comes down this fight I believe it is about skills and who was the better pound for pound. To me this fight is a toss up since both fighters primes were at different weight classes.

Floyd is great. No one can question that, but there are levels of greatness. What you said in bolded in true. That's just how it goes though. Leonard fought what would be the equal and greater of fighting four Pac's.

Floyd has done amazing things and I don't think people are dismissing what he did vs Corrales, Castillo, Oscar, Hatton and Mosley etc. However, all of those guys together don't add up to one Duran or Hearns.

Even fighting and beating Pac now, while great, still wouldn't equal anything that Leonard did. It's just an unfortunate fact of the era both those guys fight in. Leonard's era was full of greats as good and better than Pac and Mayweather and Leonard fought and beat them all.

The point still comes back to this though; At 147, could Mayweather beat Leonard? No, he couldn't. Floyd has shown great heart in his fights against Corley, Mosley etc and his ability to adjust is brilliant. Nonetheless, the difference between adjusting against Hatton or coming back after being stunned against Corley and going toe to toe is far removed from doing the same against the monster that was Duran at 147 or Hearns at 147 or coming back and boxing brilliantly against Hagler etc.

While people will always bring up LEonard waiting for Hagler to age, they still somehow manage to overlook, dismiss and forget that Leonard came off what was basically a six year long layoff. Six years! Six years before jumping into a fight with the most dominant fighter in the sport. Six years without a tune up fight going against the P4P number 1 fighter and an ATG middleweight. If Hagler had slightly deteriorated then what had happened to Leonard not having fought in six years? They more than cancel each other out.

It would be like Mayweather retiring after beating Gatti in 2005, then coming out of retirement and straight into a fight with Pacquiao right now. That's exactly what it would be like and that's what it was considered as doing then. People literally thought he was going to get killed. It's right up there as one the truly greatest feats in boxing history along with Foreman/Moorer.

Floyd is great, but against Leonard at 147 he just doesn't win.

[MARKBNLV]

Leonard would ko Floyd,So would Duran and Hearns sht i would favor Gomez over Floyd.

[danny711]

Like SRL said. I ko'd his daddy and the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

[Woosha]

simply put, Leonard by UD or late KO no question!

Not to mention he'd overwhelm Pac & any other current fighter from 140-160

[miron_lang]

I'm gonna say Ray for these obvious reasons 1) Even faster hands and feet than Floyd 2) Naturally the bigger man 3) Ray has fought guys like Benitez,Hagler,Hearns and even Duran twice lol do you think Floyd could handle a prime Duran when he's been wobbled early by the likes of Judah and Mosley haha yeah right!

Please post your thoughts,thanks!

Bold is the main reason for me.


they are equal in talent and skills but the 5'10 Leonard is naturally the bigger man.

[miron_lang]

Leonard, obviously.

If Leonard was a Welterweight today, guys like Floyd, Pacquiao and Cotto would be fighting at 140 pounds.

Pac will surely fight him if he is the superstar of the sport. and surely Cotto too..

and Floyd maybe if he's not earning enough.

[Ido]

Shame too.

Floyd vs Manny is basically a modern day version of Ray vs Duran. Or Taylor vs Chavez.

Its a once in decade type of fight.

[Walt Liquor]

Floyd is great. No one can question that, but there are levels of greatness. What you said in bolded in true. That's just how it goes though. Leonard fought what would be the equal and greater of fighting four Pac's.

Floyd has done amazing things and I don't think people are dismissing what he did vs Corrales, Castillo, Oscar, Hatton and Mosley etc. However, all of those guys together don't add up to one Duran or Hearns.

Even fighting and beating Pac now, while great, still wouldn't equal anything that Leonard did. It's just an unfortunate fact of the era both those guys fight in. Leonard's era was full of greats as good and better than Pac and Mayweather and Leonard fought and beat them all.
The point still comes back to this though; At 147, could Mayweather beat
Leonard? No, he couldn't. Floyd has shown great heart in his fights against Corley, Mosley etc and his ability to adjust is brilliant. Nonetheless, the
difference between adjusting against Hatton or coming back after being stunned against Corley and going toe to toe is far removed from doing the same against the monster that was Duran at 147 or Hearns at 147 or coming back and boxing brilliantly against Hagler etc.

While people will always bring up LEonard waiting for Hagler to age, they still somehow manage to overlook, dismiss and forget that Leonard came off what was basically a six year long layoff. Six years! Six years before jumping i
nto a fight with the most dominant fighter in the sport. Six years without a tune up fight going against the P4P number 1 fighter and an ATG middleweight. If Hagler had slightly deteriorated then what had happened to
Leonard not having fought in six years? They more than cancel each other out.

It would be like Mayweather retiring after beating Gatti in 2005, then coming out of retirement and straight into a fight with Pacquiao right now. That's exactly what it would be like and that's what it was considered as doing then. People literally thought he was going to get killed. It's right up there as one
the truly greatest feats in boxing history along with Foreman/Moorer.

Floyd is great, but against Leonard at 147 he just doesn't win.

if Floyd had prime Stevie as a young buck, casa, tszyu, cotto and PAC on his resume he would be a very close level or greatness and would be, by far the best fighter of this generation (especially if there were only 1-2 l's). Add in margs and an undefeated spaddy or most of them and you are looking at atg status


most Guys just don't fight to prove greatness like they did in srl's, sweet pea, and titos era nowadays. And they don't fight enough.

[chillifists]

leonard is how mayweather was supposed to be but lacks the balls to take the fights that mattered n didn't have that fighting warrior mentallity like sugar showed when the going got tuff.