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    #41
    Originally posted by Subtraction
    Speaking like a true butt hurt *******.

    And tbh, the only people in this thread slighting Marquez are *******s (jro).

    *******s love to praise Mab and Morales because they rolled over and took it in the ass like good patsies.

    They can't stand Marquez because he exposed Manny 2x, did it without getting hit 1000 times like Morales did and never let Manny do **** against him.

    I have Morales number three too.

    Morales gets a lot of love on here so he won't be number three by many people, because of his popularity.

    I can't believe he lost to sorry ass Raheem. I lost money on that one so I hate him forever for it.

    And Barrera whooped his ass head to head twice.

    I only rate his In-jin Chi victory.... LOL.

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    • Khalid X
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      #42
      Morales:
      Manny Pacquiao
      Junior Jones
      Kevin Kelley
      Carlos Hernandez
      Daniel Zaragoza
      Paulie Ayala
      Marco Antonio Barrera
      Wayne McCullough
      In Joo Chii


      Barrera:
      Paulie Ayala
      Johnny Tapia
      Rocky Jaurez
      Naseem Hamed
      Kevin Kelley
      Erik Morales 2x
      Enrique Sachez
      Kennedy McKinnely

      Marquez:
      Derrick Gainer
      Rocky Jaurez
      Joel Casamayor
      Juan Diaz 2x
      Marco Antonio Barrera
      Michael Katsidis


      IMO Both Barrera and Morales are ATG's and Juan Marquez is bordeline possibly just a HOF type of fighter.

      I think most are blinded by his recent success, but I have always felt Barrera and Morales clearly had better careers, although Marquez has closed the gap with his late career surge.

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        #43
        Originally posted by jreckoning
        I have Morales number three too.

        Morales gets a lot of love on here so he won't be number three by many people, because of his popularity.

        I can't believe he lost to sorry ass Raheem. I lost money on that one so I hate him forever for it.

        And Barrera whooped his ass head to head twice.

        I only rate his In-jin Chi victory.... LOL.
        Morales is winning because he's a sentimental favorite who everyone likes, but in terms of ability, he's a glorified one two puncher with a good chin.

        Marquez is too classy for both these guys. Its funny watching Jro make ******ed excuses like claiming they're not really fw's or that beating Hamed >>> JMM's entire career.

        I mean you gotta be a serious ******* to believe that ****.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Subtraction
          A natural sfw wouldn't need a catchweight of 144 against a career fw and then fail to make it.

          He's a natural ww.
          No, he has grown into the WW division, doesn't make him a natural WW. Tito was a natural WW. Floyd is not.

          Floyd is a natural SFW.

          Like JMM who is a natural FW. He just has grown into the LW division but that doesn't make him a natural LW.

          Originally posted by Subtraction
          Whats your point again?
          That if your ****** ass logic was really the case then "*******s" would be here bashing the guy that actually beat Pac.
          Last edited by jrosales13; 01-02-2011, 02:06 PM.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Subtraction
            The first fight wasn't close after the first round. So I consider that draw a robbery.

            The second fight was kind of nip and tuck (no pun intended) but JMM clearly won most of the rounds.

            I had it 115-112.

            I guess it depends on what you consider a robbery.

            I had the John fight 9-3 for JMM.
            Na men for me Pac won both fights becausse of the kds.

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              #46
              Originally posted by El C@cique@PR

              Natural SBW's??? **** outta here, Barrera was a natural FW and JMM too, Morales was a SFW/LW. Lol at him being a natural SBW.
              WTF?

              You just said this 2 pages ago...

              Originally posted by El C@cique@PR
              Morales and JMM, Barrera was small
              Yea, I'm done with you. fuckouttahere with your flip floppin ass.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Subtraction
                Morales is winning because he's a sentimental favorite who everyone likes, but in terms of ability, he's a glorified one two puncher with a good chin.

                Marquez is too classy for both these guys. Its funny watching Jro make ******ed excuses like claiming they're not really fw's or that beating Hamed >>> JMM's entire career.

                I mean you gotta be a serious ******* to believe that ****.
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                No, he has grown into the WW division, doesn't make him a natural WW. Tito was a natural WW. Floyd is not.

                Floyd is a natural SFW.

                Like JMM who is a natural FW. He just has grown into the LW division but that doesn't make him a natural LW.

                Whats your point again?
                That if your ****** ass logic was really the case then "*******s" would be here bashing the guy that actually beat Pac.[/quote]

                *******s do bash the **** out of JMM.

                They don't bash Morales cuz Pac ko'ed him twice, which is ok for them.

                But JMM giving him all he can handle is a threat to their Pacolicism.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Subtraction
                  Speaking like a true butt hurt *******.

                  And tbh, the only people in this thread slighting Marquez are *******s (jro).

                  *******s love to praise Mab and Morales because they rolled over and took it in the ass like good patsies.

                  They can't stand Marquez because he exposed Manny 2x, did it without getting hit 1000 times like Morales did and never let Manny do **** against him.
                  Not really, It has nothing to do with being butthurt.

                  Please explain to me what Marquez did at FW that really pops out? I mean I have followed all three since the late 90's and it's not even comparable, as Morales and Barrrera are consensus ATG's while Marquez is bordeline at best.

                  Again Marquez is a great fighter, HOF IMO, but I can't see how anyone would rate his career above either unless they are just blinded by his recent success.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    No, he has grown into the WW division, doesn't make him a natural WW. Tito was a natural WW. Floyd is not.

                    Floyd is a natural SFW.

                    Like JMM who is a natural FW. He just has grown into the LW division but that doesn't make him a natural LW.

                    Whats your point again?
                    That if your ****** ass logic was really the case then "*******s" would be here bashing the guy that actually beat Pac.[/QUOTE]

                    JMM could still probably make 126 if he wanted to. Floyd is not a natural sfw.

                    That's just the weight he started off at before his "man" body fully came in and developed.

                    He was still a kid when he was a sfw. Now in his "man" body, he's a natural ww.

                    JMM in his "man" body can still make 130 and probably 126. He's a natural fw because that's what weight his "man" body will allow him to make.



                    *******s don't bash Morales because Morales quit against him 2x. If Morales had won all 3 fights they'd bash Morales like they bash Marquez.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by jreckoning
                      *******s do bash the **** out of JMM.

                      They don't bash Morales cuz Pac ko'ed him twice, which is ok for them.

                      But JMM giving him all he can handle is a threat to their Pacolicism.
                      What is considered bashing though JReck?

                      Saying Morales is the greater fighter?

                      Saying JMM comes 3rd to Morales or Barrera?

                      Is not like we talking about him coming 3rd to Mijares and Castillo.

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