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  • jrosales13
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    #31
    Originally posted by Subtraction
    At one point Fraud was able to squeeze down to 130.

    I guess according to jrosales13 the fact that he could make 130 when he was very young means Fraud is a natural super feather.

    He's gonna respond with another question and draw this whole thing out for 6 pages of hollow emptiness.
    WTF? Floyd is a natural SFW....He is not a natural WW that is for sure.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Subtraction
      Speaking like a true butt hurt *******.

      And tbh, the only people in this thread slighting Marquez are *******s (jro).

      *******s love to praise Mab and Morales because they rolled over and took it in the ass like good patsies.

      They can't stand Marquez because he exposed Manny 2x, did it without getting hit 1000 times like Morales did and never let Manny do **** against him.
      Didn't Morales beat Pac?

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      • Bastian Loc
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        #33
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        But, that was at 130 and a past prime Barrera what is your point? Is like me pointing out JMM at 130 was struggling against a past prime Barrera. And, Barrera didn't struggle in the rematch.
        Cuz' he ran like a bitch.

        From Rocky Juarez.


        Does JMM have a better win than Hamed or Morales? If so, who? Diaz? Katsidis? Casamayor? Gainer? Juarez? Who exactly are better wins in JMM resume than those 2?
        He beat Pac 2x, all the names you mentioned are better than Hamed who was overrated and ducked Marquez in his prime. As did Morales.

        He also beat the brakes off Barrera despite Barrera trying to cheat against him with one of the worst fouls ever seen.

        Neither Morales or Barrera would be able to beat prime Diaz, Katsidis and certainly not Casamayor at lw.

        Plus JMM is older than both, so you can lose any excuses about wear and tear.

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        • RealIzm
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          #34
          Morales, Barrera, Marquez

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          • Bastian Loc
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            #35
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            WTF? Floyd is a natural SFW....He is not a natural WW that is for sure.
            A natural sfw wouldn't need a catchweight of 144 against a career fw and then fail to make it.

            He's a natural ww.

            Originally posted by jrosales13
            Didn't Morales beat Pac?
            Whats your point again?

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            • Iceta Lives
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              #36
              If JMM had got the decision over John like he deserved, this thread wouldn't have been made just like I said earlier. But Barrera and Morales still trump him where quality wins are concerned mainly because of their wins over each other in the trilogy.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Subtraction
                Cuz' he ran like a bitch.

                From Rocky Juarez.




                He beat Pac 2x, all the names you mentioned are better than Hamed who was overrated and ducked Marquez in his prime. As did Morales.

                He also beat the brakes off Barrera despite Barrera trying to cheat against him with one of the worst fouls ever seen.

                Neither Morales or Barrera would be able to beat prime Diaz, Katsidis and certainly not Casamayor at lw.

                Plus JMM is older than both, so you can lose any excuses about wear and tear.
                I don't think JMM's fights with Pac were highway robberies like the John fight was. What's your stance on that comparison?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Iceta Lives
                  Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I give Morales all the credit in the world for it too, but getting knocked out by him twice make Morales and JMM equal to each other where competing with Manny is concerned. So that's why I didn't mention Pacquiao when we compared his resume to JMM.
                  OK, good stuff
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  Explain what?

                  That JMM was a natural FW

                  While Morales and Barrera were natural SBW's?
                  Natural SBW's??? **** outta here, Barrera was a natural FW and JMM too, Morales was a SFW/LW. Lol at him being a natural SBW.

                  Originally posted by Iceta Lives
                  I've seen you post in these type of threads regarding these three, and you always had JMM at #3. What changed?
                  Revisiting his record and resume, I mean Kotey, Jimenez, Medina, Jaca, Polo, Gainer, Peden, Salido, Barrera, Juarez, Diaz X2, Casamayor, Katzisdis, Close fight with John(that he could have won), won more rounds than Pacquiao in both fights combined.

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                  • Bastian Loc
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Iceta Lives
                    I don't think JMM's fights with Pac were highway robberies like the John fight was. What's your stance on that comparison?
                    The first fight wasn't close after the first round. So I consider that draw a robbery.

                    The second fight was kind of nip and tuck (no pun intended) but JMM clearly won most of the rounds.

                    I had it 115-112.

                    I guess it depends on what you consider a robbery.

                    I had the John fight 9-3 for JMM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Subtraction
                      Cuz' he ran like a bitch.

                      From Rocky Juarez.
                      He ran in the rematch?

                      Originally posted by Subtraction
                      He beat Pac 2x, all the names you mentioned are better than Hamed who was overrated and ducked Marquez in his prime. As did Morales.
                      Who did? Not JMM, he has beaten Pac zero times...Should we look at the records?

                      Diaz, Katsidis, Gainer, and Casamayor are better wins than Hamed?



                      Originally posted by Subtraction
                      He also beat the brakes off Barrera despite Barrera trying to cheat against him with one of the worst fouls ever seen.
                      Apparently you do not know what "beat the brakes off" mean.

                      Originally posted by Subtraction
                      Neither Morales or Barrera would be able to beat prime Diaz, Katsidis and certainly not Casamayor at lw.
                      Because, LW would have been Morales 4th weight-class and Barrera 4th or 5th weight-class while it was JMM 3rd weight-class.

                      Originally posted by Subtraction
                      Plus JMM is older than both, so you can lose any excuses about wear and tear.
                      So what? prime, longevity of a fighter has nothing to do with age.

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