Comments Thread For: Floyd Mayweather Jr: The Great Disappointment

[punchmehard]

I'm on red again! That means that my posts are DESTROYING PAC FANS
all over. This is more than some ****** rep colors. This is a battle
between intelligent True boxing fans and MORONS. Being in the red
makes me feel like I'm doing my job as a real poster very well. Thank
you to all that put me in the red AGAIN!

you made yourself RED again. Instead of stopping to whine about drug tests you should criticize Floyd for losing his passion as a boxer.

Everyone thinks that he is intelligent not just you, so don't call other people who are against your POSTS as MORONS.

You are not destroying PAC Fans, you are just proving they have better logic than you have. You RED Ked yourself because of your biased posts.

[GRUSTLER]

i beg to disagree grus....only *****s would remember that...but the majority of the people will remember him just how the media portrays him to be...read THE RING and ull see....be fair on ur assesment grus...thats all we ask...cant manny do the things he is doing purely because of hardwork and dedication?? cant he make money he clearly has been working hard for for years?? dont he deserve a break?? just be fair grus...

Show Floyd and other fighters respect and the same will go
to Manny but if Pac peoples want to disrespect a man and
his achievements, is something I'm not trying to hear because
at the end of the day, Pac is no angel and we all know that
his fights are staged mismatches. You can NEVER go back
on my posts and see me saying that Manny is guilty of being
on something illegal. All I'm saying is he should just agree
to the tests and make us shut up if Mayweather doesn't
step up but that hasn't happened yet so lay off Floyd and
stop patting Manny on the back because the real deal is
that he walked away from the first negotiations NOT Floyd.
All Pacquiao has been talking about is accepting the tests
but Amir Kahn said Manny ain't ready? Someone is obviously
lying and I doubt it is Kahn because he is on the out looking
in. Manny ain't giving up blood and that is why the fight is
not happening. I'll tell you why I am telling the truth because
it hurts and this is the second time I am in the red for telling
the truth and that is thanks to the Pac fans. But like before
I'll be back green because I tell it like it is EARLY.

[Cash Cow]

Floyd is known as the biggest ducker in Sports.. How can you fight at Welterweight for 6 years and only Fought Baldomir?

Mayweather has beat two #1 WW Baldo & Mosley & a #2 WW Judah.....when has pac done this?


Where was Cotto ranked @WW when Manny fought him, where was Clottey? Margarito?

[GRUSTLER]

you made yourself RED again. Instead of stopping to whine about drug tests you should criticize Floyd for losing his passion as a boxer.

Everyone thinks that he is intelligent not just you, so don't call other people who are against your POSTS as MORONS.

You are not destroying PAC Fans, you are just proving they have better logic than you have. You RED Ked yourself because of your biased posts.

Whatever man. I don't care. I am just about to the truth.
Everything is documented so it is just not my word it's Arum's,
Roach and Pacquiao's.

[sterling]

great read and a good article i agree completely

[Iceta Lives]

Floyd Mayweather is a big let down. I can always forgive the dude for fights that didn't happen in the past because he's still in his early thirties and has time to make the big fights happen. But if he goes to prison for all this stuff, then there is no way we will see the fight with Pacquiao happen for sure.

[Cash Cow]

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And while ego may manifest itself in many ways, when it comes down to it, all the bluster in the world means nothing without substance to back it up. For all his talk, Muhammad Ali faced all comers, always putting his money where his mouth was. So when he calls himself ‘The Greatest’, you may not agree, but he certainly earned his way into the conversation. [Click Here To Read More]

This is a Timeline of TEAM PAC & TOP RANK comments directly after the Miguel Cotto fight in 2009
December 11:

Freddie Roach: I have no problem with the testing whatsoever. They can do whatever (Keyword: Whatever) kind of drug testing that they want.

December 14:

Alex Ariza: I am the one in charge, I am the one responsible for what Manny takes. He has no idea what he takes.


December 22:

Early today Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, was contacted by Top Rank President Todd duBoef, who informed Schaefer that Pacquiao would not agree to have his blood taken within 30-days of the bout based on the fighter’s superstition of testing so close to a fight.

Richard Schaefer: Todd told me that Pacquiao has difficulty with taking blood and doesn’t want to do it so close to the fight. He, Pacquiao, would only agree to have blood drawn before the kick-off press conference and after the fight.

In that same day,

Freddie Roach: A urine test is just as qualified as a blood test. [Human growth hormone] is not detected by blood or urine.”

How is HGH test done?

More than one blood sample must be taken on different days, due to rapid changing levels of growth hormone. A test measuring IGF-1 levels may be taken in conjunction, as its levels change much slower. Before blood is drawn, the administering health professional should be informed of any disorders or medication being taken which can lead to bleeding at the site of the puncture.



December 23:

Bob Arum: Manny says that taking blood from him really weakens him. And he doesn't want to do it when he's in training, but he'll do it prior to going into training, and after the fight. Every major doctor will tell you that blood testing shows absolutely nothing.

Freddie Roach: For the record, Pacquiao (Remember, he said Pacquiao) is willing to have his blood drawn before he starts training and after the fight to be tested for steroids and performance enhancing drugs. It’s not like Pacquiao is saying no to drugs.


December 24:

Arum: This kid has a phobia for getting his blood drawn.

December 25:

Manny Pacquiao plans to sue Floyd Mayweather, the American's father and Golden Boy Promotions in the next few days following a row over doping procedures, the Filipino world champion said in a statement on Friday.

NYDailyNews. Tim Smith,

This isn't some issue that just came about. It has been a part of the contract negotiations for weeks. According to a source familiar with the talks, Pacquiao's representatives asked what penalties Pacquiao would face if he tested dirty, and also if a dirty test result could be kept secret so that the integrity of the fight wouldn't be ruined in the public eye.


December 26:

Manny Pacquiao: I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the Press Release. I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room. I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime any where everyday leading up to the fight. The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight.

December 28

Manny Pacquiao: I do not have anything to prove (to them) and hopefully, they would not succeed in destroying my image and the sport of boxing in the way they want it done. They want to dictate and step on the authority of the organizations including the Nevada State Athletic Commission. I am not guilty and I don’t have to prove anything because I have passed all tests in all my previous fights. I will all just see you in court.

December 30:

Alex Ariza: He’s willing to give the blood tests – just not two or three days before, for understable reasons.


David Tyler interviews Freddie Roach.

Freddie Roach: HGH cannot be detected by blood, saliva, or urine. The doctors I've talked to said that HGH and any growth harmone cannot be detected by any test.

David Tyler: Fred, I have a graduate's degree in Biochemistry and 30 years experience in developing blood chemistry tests.....I'll leave it alone, let's move foward.

Freddie Roach: No wait, you can't tell me that there is a test that can detect HGH or growth harmones.

David Tyler: Fred, I'm not here to make you mad.

Freddie Roach: I'm not mad, I'm telling you that you are wrong if you think there is a test for HGH.

David Tyler: Ok Fred, so you are saying that HGH cannot be detected by a blood test?

Freddie Roach: Absolutely, 100%, NO! Saliva, blood, or urine.






So, I guess this was all Floyd Sr.'s fault right? I think not.

Men Lie, Women Lie, Quotations don't.

Note: Notice how Roach/ Arum are degrading blood testing in general.

[punchmehard]

Show Floyd and other fighters respect and the same will go
to Manny but if Pac peoples want to disrespect a man and
his achievements, is something I'm not trying to hear because
at the end of the day, Pac is no angel and we all know that
his fights are staged mismatches. You can NEVER go back
on my posts and see me saying that Manny is guilty of being
on something illegal. All I'm saying is he should just agree
to the tests and make us shut up if Mayweather doesn't
step up but that hasn't happened yet so lay off Floyd and
stop patting Manny on the back because the real deal is
that he walked away from the first negotiations NOT Floyd.
All Pacquiao has been talking about is accepting the tests
but Amir Kahn said Manny ain't ready? Someone is obviously
lying and I doubt it is Kahn because he is on the out looking
in. Manny ain't giving up blood and that is why the fight is
not happening. I'll tell you why I am telling the truth because
it hurts and this is the second time I am in the red for telling
the truth and that is thanks to the Pac fans. But like before
I'll be back green because I tell it like it is EARLY.

Who's not giving Floyd respect? People here respect the old Floyd, the PBF not the Money Floyd.

If you think Pac is not doing something illegal, why your stand wont change? You still want him to take the tests instead of saying Floyd should have dropped the tests or they agree to 7 day cut off to be fair. Who can do cheating on those 7 days? You are biased my friend.

Until your mindset will change, you will always think that it was Manny who killed the fight when the other guy is on vacation.

Everyone claims to tell the truth, its just that your logic doesn't appeal to majority of the folks here even unbiased boxing fans.

You are just butt hurt you are in RED.

[el_critz]

Your funny. Ray Leonard fought catchweights. SRR fought catchweights, Hopkins fought 3 catchweights before, Sergio Martinez just fought a catchweight. Catchweights are common in boxing. Pacquiao had 2 catchweights VS Marg and Cotto. Learn your history homie.

3 cathcweights, two for beltz....tnx i learned....

[AssasinKing]

Another disappointing article on what Floyd COULD OF done with his career.

How was this disappointing, was a great and accurate read...