After Watching Martinez vs Pavlik and Williams Sergio Isnt All That

[borikua]

I agree with the TS. I've always said that he looks amateurish, but the guy keeps winning fights, and that's what matters.

[loui_ludwig]

Funny u say so because it's quite obvious that the 2 (so called better pfp fighters)won't come near him!!But before the size excuse rolls in,I'll go ahead & squash it real quick with facts:both Manny & Floyd have won jr middleweight titles,so there's no logical reason that can be given as to why either couldn't face him!!But at least Floyd is on hiatus,while team Pacman won't defend their title against him,instead they chose grandpa Mosley,(no direspect to Mosley of course),if team Pacman offered me 50g's I'd fight him tomorrow!!

LOL so its ok for Floyd.

Even though Pac beat Margarito, Pac took more punches compare to the 4 fights before Marg. I don't like the Pac-Mosley fight but Pac deserve to have an easy fight.

[loui_ludwig]

But Martinez did land the perfect punch and he gameplanned to do just that because he did try it more than one and knew where Paul would be and what he'd do... You can't take that away from him...

Watched the 2nd fight again last night on HBO. Martinez landed a similar shot to Paul in the first round. It was perfect timing and landed directly at the jaw.

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He's got some technical flaws........speed and reflexes hide it though.

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Funny u say so because it's quite obvious that the 2 (so called better pfp fighters)won't come near him!!But before the size excuse rolls in,I'll go ahead & squash it real quick with facts:both Manny & Floyd have won jr middleweight titles,so there's no logical reason that can be given as to why either couldn't face him!!But at least Floyd is on hiatus,while team Pacman won't defend their title against him,instead they chose grandpa Mosley,(no direspect to Mosley of course),if team Pacman offered me 50g's I'd fight him tomorrow!!

Neither has anything to prove fighting Martinez at 154.....but Pac fans piss me off with this 8 division bull****....i wouldn't wipe my ass with that 8th title....it's completely illegitimate in my opinion.

However it's less logical for Manny to fight him. His fight at 154 was at a CW and a sham. floyd's fight at 154 is a much better win at that weight against a much better opponent. Floyd also came in at 150.

It's more logical for Floyd to fight him at 154 than it is for Manny.

[Roja's480]

He's not perfect, but lets not get carried away. There's a lot of ifs here, if he wouldn't have cut pavlik, if he wouldn't have knocked Paul Williams out. The cuts didn't appear out of nowhere, Paul Williams didn't just faint in the 2nd round.

I agree with you 100%

[Roja's480]

He's got some technical flaws........speed and reflexes hide it though.

if mosley got a hit in, sergio will to and he is an anorthodox fighter wich will give fighters a hard time too but i think floyd wins either way but he will take some hits

[Levcon8686]

You don't have to have sound fundamentals if you have a style that works. Ask Roy Jones Jr.

And just look at what happened to Prince Naseem once Manny Steward tried to turn him into a textbook boxer, he was never the same.

He beats any 154 or 160 fighter around, i'd say he definitely is all that.

Agree with this. A belt at 154 and the lineal MW champ. It depends what you classify as 'being all that'.

[letsgobrady]

Martinez Vs Pavlik was a close fight and the cut changed the fight, if Pavlik hadn't got cut i think he would have gone on to win

pavlik got some of the middle rounds but if you watch sergio fights he always seems to kinda take off those mid rounds so either way i don't think pavlik was goin to win sergio always seems to fight the 1st 4 and the last 4

[letsgobrady]

He's got some technical flaws........speed and reflexes hide it though.

he's kinda like calzaghe and darchinyan in the sense when you watch them fight you think no way is this an elite boxer yet they actually seem to know what they are doing