Do you give Haye a reasonable shot at beating Wlad?

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  • WladIsTheChamp
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    #71
    Originally posted by lfc19titles
    wladisthechamp, think best way to say is that we will found out on the fight night.

    At the moment, I would say everyone both guys have faced recently havent really tested each guy. suppose thats why wlad wants this fight, he needs haye because he needs a good heavyweight to make his legacy, he wants to show the public "I can beat the quickest and strongest of heavies"

    As for Haye, again like wlad hasnt been tested, we dont know how good his chin is at the moment at heavyweight because he has never taken a huge hit really from a heavy that dropped him

    at the end of the fight, we will find out who is a great heavyweight, it is natural people make the guy who has been doing it for longer as the favourate, so it will be wlad but you know if history taught you anything, ortiz was favourate vs ortiz, willaims was fav vs martinez, pascal was fav against martinez and so on

    BTW reason I am going for Haye is because its just my style, When I see 2 good boxers, I nearly always goes for the quickest guy or the guy who throws more combinations with angles. In this case it will be haye but i wouldnt be shocked if he comes up short
    Fair enough, I just hope that we actually get to see this resolved. Would you agree though, that it's Haye that ducked Wlad if the fight never occurs? Afterall, he was the one who begged for the fight to begin with. Or are you going to insist that the Klitschkos ducked Haye? Just answer this truthfully and we can go back to the usual posts like two opposing fans are supposed to.

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    • Jimbo16031992
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      #72
      Originally posted by lfc19titles
      do you know what sky bet is mate? he is just trying to get everyone to put money on haye, that means he thinks wlad will win
      That statement was be before the Fraudley fight, he went on Sky Sports News and said that s***, the whole of BSkyB is delusional when it comes to boxing.

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        #73
        Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
        Fair enough, I just hope that we actually get to see this resolved. Would you agree though, that it's Haye that ducked Wlad if the fight never occurs? Afterall, he was the one who begged for the fight to begin with. Or are you going to insist that the Klitschkos ducked Haye? Just answer this truthfully and we can go back to the usual posts like two opposing fans are supposed to.
        haye can't duck wladimir anymore, he did it already twice, a 3rd time would be his downfall, even his own fans would turn their backs on him.

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        • WladIsTheChamp
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          #74
          Originally posted by lfc19titles
          do you know what sky bet is mate? he is just trying to get everyone to put money on haye, that means he thinks wlad will win
          I understand it's a betting site but why would they even talk Audley up like that, that's a ridiculous claim to make that beating Audley is going to make you p4p. People are that gullible?

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          • lfc19titles
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            #75
            Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
            Fair enough, I just hope that we actually get to see this resolved. Would you agree though, that it's Haye that ducked Wlad if the fight never occurs? Afterall, he was the one who begged for the fight to begin with. Or are you going to insist that the Klitschkos ducked Haye? Just answer this truthfully and we can go back to the usual posts like two opposing fans are supposed to.
            if haye doesnt fight wlad before he retires, yes he would have ducked him, btw it is happening mate, I am telling you haye wants this fight as much as wlad. haye fights for money, thats why he moved up, this makes the most money, he really did sign a slave contract with saunderland and he has dealt with them well in general

            the fight is 100 percent happening, in the end haye will agree with the rtl deal, in fact he already has, the fight will be confirmed very very soon.

            when the british public demand something from a fighter they support, it is very hard for that guy to say no, why? because people will stop buying haye fights if he doesnt fight a klit next

            harrison was an easy pay day that sky really pushed for, they almost demanded haye take that fight and threw big money till he said yes

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            • Jack Napier
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              #76
              very slim chance
              been years since anyone got close to the bad chin of Wlad

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              • lfc19titles
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                #77
                Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
                I understand it's a betting site but why would they even talk Audley up like that, that's a ridiculous claim to make that beating Audley is going to make you p4p. People are that gullible?
                nobody believes that, even the casual fans know of pacman and mayweather. the public also know klits are the main champs till haye beats them

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                • WladIsTheChamp
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by lfc19titles
                  if haye doesnt fight wlad before he retires, yes he would have ducked him, btw it is happening mate, I am telling you haye wants this fight as much as wlad. haye fights for money, thats why he moved up, this makes the most money, he really did sign a slave contract with saunderland and he has dealt with them well in general

                  the fight is 100 percent happening, in the end haye will agree with the rtl deal, in fact he already has, the fight will be confirmed very very soon.

                  when the british public demand something from a fighter they support, it is very hard for that guy to say no, why? because people will stop buying haye fights if he doesnt fight a klit next

                  harrison was an easy pay day that sky really pushed for, they almost demanded haye take that fight and threw big money till he said yes
                  well you normally wouldn't get a green k but you get one for being honest. Just so we are in agreement though, if Haye retires in October without ever fighting a Klitschko then we know he ducked them.

                  I believed this fight will happen a year ago, even two years ago. But since the Wlad call-out on YT, Haye's actions and statements lead me strongly to believe this fight will never happen, I hope I am wrong.

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                  • lfc19titles
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
                    well you normally wouldn't get a green k but you get one for being honest. Just so we are in agreement though, if Haye retires in October without ever fighting a Klitschko then we know he ducked them.

                    I believed this fight will happen a year ago, even two years ago. But since the Wlad call-out on YT, Haye's actions and statements lead me strongly to believe this fight will never happen, I hope I am wrong.
                    I think and this is only my opinion, when haye agreed with the fights, he got told that he could make more money vs valuev which would have also been an easier fight. All someone had to do was tell him to delay the fight vs the klits till near the end of his career, that way he will maximize the money he gets

                    remember, forget legacy for haye, forget everything like that, I know for a fact the guy fights for one thing and that is money, he honestly is like floyd when it comes to it

                    I am certain he will fight wlad next, after that if he wins, vitali, if he loses a rematch with wlad or fight vitali

                    Right now the haye vs klit fight is at fever pitch, I am certain the fight will do over 1m ppv buys in the uk, it is way more demanded than it was 1 or 2 years ago, right now is when the money is a pot of gold and it is growing very bright

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                    • Toney Loc
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                      #80
                      I give Haye a legitimate puncher's chance of winning. So that would be like I don't know, 2% chance or some shit?

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