Do you give Haye a reasonable shot at beating Wlad?

[Holtol]

Ive been watching Haye fight for years and years now and have been waiting for someone to either take him the distance or be ahead on points and it seems like that day is never happening.

Exsept for that one time against Valuev.

[elgaringo]

To beat Wlad he will need Lamon Brewester's power and resistance.... He has neither

no he has as much power, but i believe he makes up for his lack of resistance woth his elusiveness and footspeed

[Pirao]

no he has as much power, but i believe he makes up for his lack of resistance woth his elusiveness and footspeed

Lol what elusiveness? Ruiz's slow ass jab was hitting him at will

[Ray*]

Less than 25%, Haye wouldnt be able to get away from the jab, Got to be realistic.... Haye probably have the first two or three rounds to take Wlad out because after that Haye is pizza faced.

Haye doesnt have good stamina, He doesnt move is head and only relies on his big right hand punch, When you re too in-love with a big punch then that could be your downfall.

[prinzemanspopa]

If you're going to knock Wlad out,you atleast have to take the necessary risks in order to put yourself in a position to catch Wlad.Corrie Sanders has never been one to shy away from letting his hands go,and Lamon Brewster is just a really tough guy that was willing to absorb the amount of punishment that he did.


Contrary to popular belief,Haye isn't this free-swinging slugger that takes great risks in his fights.He's very selective with his punch output,and his stamina and durability issues is arguably as worse than Wlad's ever was.



Wlad has a jab,and he can dictate a fight behind his jab without having to worry about being pushed to really work against someone with such a low workrate like Haye.Haye doesn't have a jab,can be easily hit with the jab,and it's going to take alot more than the odd pot shot to break through to Wlad's chin - which,by the way,was tested a little bit by a strong puncher in Samuel Peter just recently.



People need to let go of the image of Wlad being destroyed by Sanders power,or his coming apart against Brewster,because he's not the same fighter anymore.


Wlad will beat Haye and have a very easy time in doing so.He will retire without having suffered a loss since 2004 and go down as one of the elite greats in heavyweight history.

[Hitman932]

Less than 25%, Haye wouldnt be able to get away from the jab, Got to be realistic.... Haye probably have the first two or three rounds to take Wlad out because after that Haye is pizza faced.

Haye doesnt have good stamina, He doesnt move is head and only relies on his big right hand punch, When you re too in-love with a big punch then that could be your downfall.

If you're going to knock Wlad out,you atleast have to take the necessary risks in order to put yourself in a position to catch Wlad.Corrie Sanders has never been one to shy away from letting his hands go,and Lamon Brewster is just a really tough guy that was willing to absorb the amount of punishment that he did.


Contrary to popular belief,Haye isn't this free-swinging slugger that takes great risks in his fights.He's very selective with his punch output,and his stamina and durability issues is arguably as worse than Wlad's ever was.



Wlad has a jab,and he can dictate a fight behind his jab without having to worry about being pushed to really work against someone with such a low workrate like Haye.Haye doesn't have a jab,can be easily hit with the jab,and it's going to take alot more than the odd pot shot to break through to Wlad's chin - which,by the way,was tested a little bit by a strong puncher in Samuel Peter just recently.



People need to let go of the image of Wlad being destroyed by Sanders power,or his coming apart against Brewster,because he's not the same fighter anymore.


Wlad will beat Haye and have a very easy time in doing so.He will retire without having suffered a loss since 2004 and go down as one of the elite greats in heavyweight history.

Two excellent posts in a thread filled with nonsense.

Bravo gentleman.

[Swag Hustla]

I'd say Haye has a puncher's chance against Wlad. But his chances are still about slim to none. A lot of Wlad's past opponents had that puncher's chance, but couldn't get a thing going against him.

He almost has zero chance against Vitali though.

Either way, I think Haye will take a serious beating from either brother. I doubt he would last 8 rounds.

[maverock]

Haye will have his moments in the first 2-3 rounds and will remain dangerous with single hands but I only give him a 10-20% chance of winning against either brother. He's a huge underdog and he knows it.

Both Wlad and Vitali are more complete boxers than him. Haye is stronger in certain aspects (combinations, hand speed) but he lacks any type of balance/footwork, basic defense and chin.

[King Koopa]

I'd say a 60-65% chance of victory...

Wlad is just so damn dominant though, I'd still favor Wlad without blinking

[King Koopa]

Put it this way he has a better chance than anyone else does.....

I disagree...I think Vitali has a better chance, thought that fight would never happen

I'd also say Adamek has a higher chance, but only slightly

Again, I still would favor and bet on Wlad against anyone right now without blinking an eye