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  • jtiger78
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    #141
    Originally posted by JoeDaWg
    I really think everyone needs to just leave floyd alone, and that includes Freddie Roach. The man doesn't want to fight pac, for this reason or that, it's his legacy, it's his decision. He's not relevant to the boxing game right now, and even when he does decide to fight it's only once a year anyway. It looks like he's got a lot bigger issues then his legacy or a boxing match to deal with. The man is facing some serious **** and I doubt anyone in his situation would want to take on the biggest fight of their career. I'm not saying he didn't put himself in this situation, and I'm also not saying that he would want any of pac even if his life was all hunky dory. What I am saying is he's in deep **** right now and I understand not wanting to get in the ring with a beast like pac if your not 100% mentally all there. If he does decide he want's to retake his thrown as the best in the game and secure his place as an ATG he knows how to get the fight. Until then lets focus on fighters who actually want to fight and challenge themselves. Boxing is bigger then floyd or pac, lets stop focusing on the past and start enjoying the present. If the fight comes off great. If not, boxing will move on, it always does.
    this makes perfect sense i just think websites benefit from the controversey and bickering! but you are 100% right bro!!!!!!!!

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    • puga
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      #142
      Originally posted by JayDee2700
      I give Manny a punchers chance but if it come down to 12 rounds Mayweather wins easy. Here is why: Manny is a rythem fighter, it take him about 2 to 3 rounds to get confortable with his opponent an get in2 a rythem, once he's in a rythem he is on cruz control the whole fight. Look an his past opponents(Margarito,Clottey,Cotto,Hatton,DLH) except for DLH the rest dont make drastic adjustments to catch Manny, Now Floyd make adjustments quicker then any fighter I've ever seen, an I think that Manny would never establish any type of rythem in the ring cause of Floyd quick adjustments, I personally feel it would be a boxing clinic in the ring due to the fact Manny looks horrible when he is not in rythem, that why he got his ass handed to him by JMM cause JMM can make good adjustments, that also y Manny cant fight while backing up, that also y he cant fight clinching, like I said Manny is a rythem fighter break the rythem, you break Manny down.
      thats the last thing you can describe pac....he is one of the most awkward fighter there is...thats what gives lots of fighters trouble becuase its hard to prepare for his style , theres no exact definiton to it...

      jmm and floyd are 2 diferent fighters.....jmm simply had success becuase of his abilty to counterpunch and folloowing it with with combinations..even then it was'nt enough..floyd is a potshot guy, tho he is a good counter pucher himself does'nt have the combos to stop pac's relentless onslaught...

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      • GRUSTLER
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        #143
        Originally posted by SekondzOut
        don't know if this is the one but this clearly states that Top Rank wanted Floyd to stay inactive long as possible



        http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/263644
        YEAH! I've been looking for this for a long time! That is going to
        be my sig in a lil bit but Martinez has to shine because I consider
        him to be the best of the 3 at the moment because Floyd is not
        fighting and Pac ain't fighting no winners or competitive matches
        as of late. Glad Martinez's accomplishments are shinging now
        because he has had a tougher year against top opponents.

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        • puga
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          #144
          Originally posted by WESS
          Actually I copied and pasted that info. Then I gave you a link talking about both fights and how Manny came in overweight 2X.

          http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...6129&cat=boxer

          It was the first thing that popped up....
          you checked boxrec yet you claimed pac was overweight vs torrecampo...lol..and you also said it was at catchweight then had the nerve to tell me to do my research when its common knowledge that pac only had 2 catcweight fights....lol

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          • WESS
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            #145
            Originally posted by GRUSTLER
            YEAH! I've been looking for this for a long time! That is going to
            be my sig in a lil bit but Martinez has to shine because I consider
            him to be the best of the 3 at the moment because Floyd is not
            fighting and Pac ain't fighting no winners or competitive matches
            as of late.
            Glad Martinez's accomplishments are shinging now
            because he has had a tougher year against top opponents.
            My 2010 P4P:
            1. Martinez: Pavlik (#1 MW), PWILL 2X (#1 MW)
            2. Mayweather: Mosley (#1 WW)
            3. Pac: Clottey (#5 WW), Margarito (not ranked at WW/JMW)

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            • norway
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              #146
              ****** old Manny Barely won a controversial decision over Marguez and Floyd outclassed him. Floyd would school Manny so bad he would retire out of shame. Everyone saying anything else are big dreamers but still know the truth!!!

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              • JayDee2700
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                #147
                Originally posted by puga
                thats the last thing you can describe pac....he is one of the most awkward fighter there is...thats what gives lots of fighters trouble becuase its hard to prepare for his style , theres no exact definiton to it...

                jmm and floyd are 2 diferent fighters.....jmm simply had success becuase of his abilty to counterpunch and folloowing it with with combinations..even then it was'nt enough..floyd is a potshot guy, tho he is a good counter pucher himself does'nt have the combos to stop pac's relentless onslaught...
                No Manny is! look at his fights, he doesnt hav the same rythem with each fighter, what i mean by rythem is a set mode he get into where he just takes over by punching from angles an dipping out then restarting an do it again, where if sum1 such as JMM or Mayweather will time him and counter him, then he'll get frestrated a look sloppy like he did against JMM! Ive watch Manny for several years he still has the same flaws he's always had, he just has just fought styles that dont give him problems.

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                • WESS
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by puga
                  you checked boxrec yet you claimed pac was overweight vs torrecampo...lol..and you also said it was at catchweight then had the nerve to tell me to do my research when its common knowledge that pac only had 2 catcweight fights....lol
                  Read what I wrote, you're pointing out that I copied "lb over the specified catchweight" when my point was that Pac came in overweight 2X, when you where clearly clowning Floyd for being "overweight" when fighting JMM.

                  The point your dearly missing every single time is the "grass isn't any greener on the other side".

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                  • puga
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by tredh
                    Honestly I asked just to see what you would say. They were disappointed because they wanted to fight PBF without a tune-up. Come on man you know there is a difference in fighters when they have had a tune-up and didn't have one. That is the real reason they were disappointed it is understandable like we all know people in boxing want as many advantages as they can get before the fighters even get in the ring.
                    LOL...really or you just did'nt know the diference?..it sounded to me like the latter tbh, no offense......man, ray leonard fought hagler right away after 3 years in retirement....floyd was out for 18 months...lol

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                    • puga
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by WESS
                      Read what I wrote, you're pointing out that I copied "lb over the specified catchweight" when my point was that Pac came in overweight 2X, when you where clearly clowning Floyd for being "overweight" when fighting JMM.

                      The point your dearly missing every single time is the "grass isn't any greener on the other side".
                      that means that what you said are conflicting....youre saying pac came in overweight vs torrecampo and you based it on boxrec...well, boxrec also says that pac came in at 112 vs him....so, obviusly pac only came in overweight once not twice like you claim....and pac only fought at CW twice, now thats common knowldege....so get with the program!

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