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  • WESS
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    #111
    Originally posted by puga
    yeah...but here is the catch....pac is not naturally any bigger than jmm like floyd is to jmm....nobody expected pac to beat hoya and he beat that ass bad....see the difference?....
    Its the point chief, that you again missed.

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    • tredh
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      #112
      Originally posted by puga
      did'nt you just say "atleast floyd did'nt get penalized like pac"...?....or was i reading an imaginary post ?...lol

      youre making **** up again, roach never said pac was not ready...he said it was better for pac to get more time to train for a mayweather other than less than 1 and half months....they wanted the floyd fight eversince he came back...they even criticesd him for not waiting a week after the hatton fight so they could negotiate right way...but floyd said he wanted a tune up first......than came the cotto fight which again one of the fighters floyd avoided and went on retienmnet, all of the garbage talks from floyd's daddy started..
      What is the difference between not being ready and needing more time to train? It seems to me you not ready if you need more time to train. No? Actually Roach did say Manny wasn't ready and they need more time cause he had teach Manny so much more stuff for a PBF fight and he needs to be sure Manny sees what he(Roach) sees.

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      • Pu$$yKiller
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        #113
        Originally posted by WESS
        Pac beat JMM by a hair, Floyd beat JMM like Pac couldn't.

        See how easy that is?
        That's true but the Pacquaio at 147 is better than the Pacquaio at 130.

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        • puga
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          #114
          Originally posted by Visceral
          JMM may have been undersized but he wasn't weight drained like DLH, but DLH did force himslef to that weight so it's no a crystal clear black and white matter we are talking about here.
          he was'nt weightdrainde but he was blown up....being that is as bad as being weightdrained....both wont be effective...

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            #115
            Originally posted by GRUSTLER
            THANK YOU! The **** is as plain as day. Why do Pac fans
            keep trying to make these things up? How is Floyd scared
            of Pacquiao, when Freddie Roach once said he would want
            to fight Mayweather at a catchweight? You Pac fans have
            got to be kidding me. There is an article I've been looking
            for when Arum said that he would like for Mayweather to
            stay retired as long as possible, so that Floyd could be
            rusty when he comes back to fight Pac BEFORE the JMM
            fight happened. I've been looking for that article for a long
            time. If someone can find it. Please forward it over and let
            me know when/if you post it.
            I'll be on the look out, I don't remember reading it though.

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            • puga
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              #116
              Originally posted by tredh
              What is the difference between not being ready and needing more time to train? It seems to me you not ready if you need more time to train. No? Actually Roach did say Manny wasn't ready and they need more time cause he had teach Manny so much more stuff for a PBF fight and he needs to be sure Manny sees what he(Roach) sees.
              not being ready could mean needing more experince, challenges,etc......needing more time to train is just that that, needing time to train....big difference......its just like pac wont be ready to fight in january but he is in may...do you see it?...

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              • Visceral
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                #117
                Originally posted by puga
                he was'nt weightdrainde but he was blown up....being that is as bad as being weightdrained....both wont be effective...
                No way it is! when your weight drained you feel sick and weak and will not be very active at all. When your blown up your just not as smooth, fast or cordinated as you are at normal weight. Both are bad but being drained is way worse.

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                • WESS
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Pu$$yKiller
                  That's true but the Pacquaio at 147 is better than the Pacquaio at 130.
                  Right, JMM was out of his "comfort" zone just as Hoya was who hadn't made 147 in a decade. A little uncomfortable don't you think? Roach and Arum express how comfort is a big issue in there camp. Its actually one of the main reasons they first wanted to fight Floyd Mayweather at a catchweight. They felt Floyd would have been too comfortable with out a catchweight.

                  Just as they wanted Cotto at a catchweight but not Hoya. They knew he wouldn't be comfortable at that weight. Just as demanding for JMM to now fight at WW (no catchweight) when Pac didn't even win his WW title without a catchweight. How contradicting and unjustifiable.

                  That's the point. Some people are just ignorant to suit there agenda.

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                  • tredh
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by WESS
                    Its the point chief, that you again missed.
                    Read a earlier post. Why do you feel De la Hoya won the fight vs. PBF.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by tredh
                      What is the difference between not being ready and needing more time to train? It seems to me you not ready if you need more time to train. No? Actually Roach did say Manny wasn't ready and they need more time cause he had teach Manny so much more stuff for a PBF fight and he needs to be sure Manny sees what he(Roach) sees.
                      You sir are CORRECT!
                      [IMG]http://i67.***********.com/albums/h315/GRUSTLER/box_a_roach_200-1.jpg[/IMG]

                      NUFF SAID!

                      "We'll have a change in sparring partners and style because Mayweather is so different than our last four opponents [Cotto, Ricky Hatton, De La Hoya and David Diaz]. We have to study him really hard. But I know Mayweather really well. I just need Manny to see what I see." Freddie Roach.

                      TRANSLATION:

                      Manny Pacquiao ain't ready for Floyd
                      even after his best performances.

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