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  • Originally posted by jimmy1569 View Post
    Dude..seriously you're a typical hater....i don't expect anything more from you. & NO one clowned nobody here...i took you guys all to school... show me somebody that's more unbeatable than Vitali & I'll SHOW you a make believe fighter.. Prove to me you can beat him when he's not severely injured & impaired at the end of his fights... never been done.. prove to me you can outbox him...again never been done... prove to me you can send him head first into the canvas...never been done. ALL tHE fighters that are supposedly ahead of him own at least one of those things that has never happened to VITALI & THOSE ARE THE FACTS!
    EXPLAIN TO ME WHY VITALI IS THE ONLY HEAVYWEIGHT GREAT THAT THOSE THINGS HAVE NEVER HAPPENED TO HIM. WHY ARE WE DISMISSING THIS WHEN HE'S THE ONLY ONE. PICK ANY HEAVYWEIGHT IN THE TOP 20-30 THAT NOT OF THIS HAS HAPPENED TO THEM & I'LL GO AWAY. ALI...LOUIS...LEWIS..FOREMAN...JOHNSON MARCIANO .... DEMPSEY.. W KLITSCHKO TYSON..HOLYFIELD BOWE..LISTON FRAZIER..... JUST GIVE ME ONE NAME......WHY IS HE THE ONLY ONE? IS THIS A MERE COINCIDENCE...IS IT LUCK...OR CAN IT BE THAT HE'S JUST THAT SKILLFUL THAT HE EXCELS IN EVERY ASPECT OF WINNING BOXING?......

    I'M WAITING FOR JUST ONE HATER TO ADMIT THAT THEY CAN'T COME UP WITH ANOTHER NAME...FOR ONCE...LETS' JUST STICK TO WHAT I'M STATING.....NO MENTION OF COMPETITION..NO MENTION OF OVERWEIGHT FOES...JUST STICK TO WHAT I'VE OUTLINED..WHY DOES HE HAVE THE HIGHEST PER RATING IN HEAVYWEIGHT HISTORY?

    I wanna know why he's the only one..don't want to hear excuses & reasoning behind it. You haters all DISMISS this as him being physically superior to most of his opponents...you traSH THE OPPONENTS...YOU SAY HE'S BEATABLE WHEN HIS ONLY 2 LOSSES WERE WHEN HIS BODY FAILED HIM & NOT HIS BOXING SKILLS.. I'M SORRY BUT THERE'S JUST WAY TOO MUCH EVIDENCE THAT VITALI HAS BEEN THE MOST DOMINANT HEAVY OF ALLTIME...LET'S TAKE AWAY HIS COMPETITION FOR A SECOND..WOULD YOU THINK IT;S SO LAUGHABLE DESPITE ALL EVIDENCED & THE NUMBERS SHOWN?

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    • Originally posted by jimmy1569 View Post
      EXPLAIN TO ME WHY VITALI IS THE ONLY HEAVYWEIGHT GREAT THAT THOSE THINGS HAVE NEVER HAPPENED TO HIM. WHY ARE WE DISMISSING THIS WHEN HE'S THE ONLY ONE. PICK ANY HEAVYWEIGHT IN THE TOP 20-30 THAT NOT OF THIS HAS HAPPENED TO THEM & I'LL GO AWAY. ALI...LOUIS...LEWIS..FOREMAN...JOHNSON MARCIANO .... DEMPSEY.. W KLITSCHKO TYSON..HOLYFIELD BOWE..LISTON FRAZIER..... JUST GIVE ME ONE NAME......WHY IS HE THE ONLY ONE? IS THIS A MERE COINCIDENCE...IS IT LUCK...OR CAN IT BE THAT HE'S JUST THAT SKILLFUL THAT HE EXCELS IN EVERY ASPECT OF WINNING BOXING?......

      I'M WAITING FOR JUST ONE HATER TO ADMIT THAT THEY CAN'T COME UP WITH ANOTHER NAME...FOR ONCE...LETS' JUST STICK TO WHAT I'M STATING.....NO MENTION OF COMPETITION..NO MENTION OF OVERWEIGHT FOES...JUST STICK TO WHAT I'VE OUTLINED..WHY DOES HE HAVE THE HIGHEST PER RATING IN HEAVYWEIGHT HISTORY?

      I wanna know why he's the only one..don't want to hear excuses & reasoning behind it. You haters all DISMISS this as him being physically superior to most of his opponents...you traSH THE OPPONENTS...YOU SAY HE'S BEATABLE WHEN HIS ONLY 2 LOSSES WERE WHEN HIS BODY FAILED HIM & NOT HIS BOXING SKILLS.. I'M SORRY BUT THERE'S JUST WAY TOO MUCH EVIDENCE THAT VITALI HAS BEEN THE MOST DOMINANT HEAVY OF ALLTIME...LET'S TAKE AWAY HIS COMPETITION FOR A SECOND..WOULD YOU THINK IT;S SO LAUGHABLE DESPITE ALL EVIDENCED & THE NUMBERS SHOWN?
      Dude he fought bums, there is your answer. he fought 1 good hw in byrd and 1 great hw in lewis. And he lost those fights. All of his wins are over bums. And thats a fact.

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      • Originally posted by 2Fast View Post
        Dude he fought bums, there is your answer. he fought 1 good hw in byrd and 1 great hw in lewis. And he lost those fights. All of his wins are over bums. And thats a fact.
        Like..i said....i didn't expect no other answer but that. Every freakin' heavyweight great has fought bums.. his comp is not much different than Tyson's comp. He's fought plenty of good boxers & there's enough of a gauge as to he handled them... That is such a lame excuse. For once let;s focus on the skills & LEAVE the opponent out of the equation.. When we try to gauge Vitali's greatness...funny how we focus less on him & more on his opponents. The focus should be the opposite.more on him & less on the opponents. If WE DID this..there wouldn't be ANYTHing FOR haters to stand on. It's the fighter that makes the opponent...not the other way around.. This is where boxing analyzation fails...i think it's more what you do to your opponent than anything else when WE ARE COMPARING FIGHTERS OF SIMILAR NATURE.

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        • Funny...how most agree that Vitaly h2h in hypothetical matchups is easily top 10.. That's the ONLY admission of VITALY'S greatness. What you don't realize is that you're actually saying he's top 10 material but his resume won't allow you to say it. This is the ONLY time where peeps acknowledge his skills & dominance over the opponents he's faced without bringing up his competition. If a person is top 10 H2H....means YOU don't think that there's more than 10 heavy's that were better...pretty simple... no

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          • Originally posted by jimmy1569 View Post
            Funny...how most agree that Vitaly h2h in hypothetical matchups is easily top 10.. That's the ONLY admission of VITALY'S greatness. What you don't realize is that you're actually saying he's top 10 material but his resume won't allow you to say it. This is the ONLY time where peeps acknowledge his skills & dominance over the opponents he's faced without bringing up his competition. If a person is top 10 H2H....means YOU don't think that there's more than 10 heavy's that were better...pretty simple... no
            no. what people are saying is that vitali just isn't near the top 10 ATG, resume wise & him as a overall fighter. the only fight that we can judge is the lewis fight because lewis is great. but even lewis was fat old & tired when vitali fought him.

            somehow lewis still managed to tko vitali.

            VITALI DOESN'T COME CLOSE TO BEING IN THE TOP 10 ATG

            at this point klit fans are embarrassing themselves.

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            • Originally posted by jimmy1569 View Post
              I wanna know why he's the only one..don't want to hear excuses & reasoning behind it. You haters all DISMISS this as him being physically superior to most of his opponents...you traSH THE OPPONENTS...YOU SAY HE'S BEATABLE WHEN HIS ONLY 2 LOSSES WERE WHEN HIS BODY FAILED HIM & NOT HIS BOXING SKILLS.. ?
              Very good question.

              Vits body breaks down for the same reason a shtty computer fcks up when you try to execute a decent program.

              The same reason a divers lungs explode if he ascends to the surface too fast. Its not a freak injury, its the body's way of telling you that you are out of your depth, and you are not going to cheat nature.

              Vitali swung and missed 370 times trying to outbox Chris Byrd. That equates to about 41 missed punches per round. Is it any wonder why he threw out his shoulder?

              Against Lennox he tried to "clinch" one of the most ruthless clinch fighters of all time and got an eyebrow busted open...He tried to clinch again in the 6th round and got his lip busted open. You cant cheat nature, and Vitali is not capable of beating anyone above class D.

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              • YES, Vitali Klitschko is one of the greatest heavyweights of all time. He beats any HW from any era.

                - There is no blueprint to beat him.

                - He is unbeatable.

                - He has dominated every opponent he has ever faced.

                - Has never been behind on the scorecards.

                - Has great defense and an iron chin, never been down.

                - 38 KOs in 41 wins, greatest heavyweight champ KO% of all time.

                - Only man ever to be world heavyweight champ in boxing and kickboxing.

                Vitali is almost 40 now, came back after a 4 year layoff and is still dominating the heavyweight division. He hasn't lost a single round in his comeback.


                FAO: JoeyZagz

                Vitali got a freak injury in the 2nd round and he still dominated Byrd.

                One armed Vitali dominated Byrd.
                Last edited by Steelhammer2011; 12-29-2010, 02:16 AM.

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                • Damn, Tunney has 39 alts?

                  Are you guys ****ing joking? Have you looked at Vitaly's resume? He can't even **** with John Ruiz.

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                  • Originally posted by Steelhammer2010
                    Vitali Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis

                    THE TRUTH

                    Vitali took the fight on just 10 days notice.

                    Vitali was clearly winning the fight 4-2 on all 3 scorecards at the time of the controversial doctor stoppage. Lewis was badly hurt and was staggering around the ring like a drunk, he barely survived the 2nd round. Lewis was getting outboxed, outworked, outlanded and was hurt several times in the fight.

                    punches landed

                    Vitali 156

                    Lewis 102


                    Lewis was exhausted, worn down and hurt from the accumulation of punches and was ready to get KTFO again, he collapsed onto his stool at the end of the 6th round, Vitali was the fresher of the two, he was a man on a mission and would've KO'd Lewis for sure if the fight had continued.

                    All the fans at Staples Center cheered for Vitali and booed Lewis after the fight.

                    Lewis promised Vitali a rematch.

                    Vitali destroyed Kirk Johnson in 2 rounds and called out Lewis again in the post fight interview. The scared Lewis retired shortly after that fight.

                    Lewis turned down 30 million dollars for a rematch and retired like a coward because he knew he would get destroyed by Vitali.

                    Vitali dominated Lewis and scared his bitch ass into retirement.



                    George Foreman: "Vitali was winning the fight. Lewis got lucky. There has to be a rematch!"

                    Jim Lampley: "A lucky escape for Lewis who was clearly losing the fight"

                    Even Emanuel Steward was upset and pissed off at Lewis for blatantly ducking a Vitali rematch.

                    Lewis is scared to death of Vitali.
                    Lennox took the fight on ten days notice too so quit s*cking another man's ****. And Vitali said that, as the mandatory, he had been training for Lennox for a YEAR. Now send me some red k so I can laugh.

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                    • Originally posted by Steelhammer2010 View Post
                      FAO: JoeyZagz

                      Vitali got a freak injury in the 2nd round and he still dominated Byrd.

                      .
                      A body, a car or anything else in nature will break down when it tries to perform an action that exceeds its capabilities. Vitali is not capable of beating anyone better than class D, so naturally he falls apart when faced with legit opponents.

                      Vitali's strategy in every fight is to mindlessly throw punches until his opponent hits the canvas. This is fine against clubfighters but it will never work on an opponent ranked above class D.

                      If young holmes can beat old Ali
                      If young Marciano can beat old Joe Louis
                      If young Johnson can beat old Jeffries

                      ^^THen why couldnt Klitschko beat old Lennox? None of the above young boxers got their face busted up as severely as Klitsckho did. Vitali looked like a used tampon when the fight was over.

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