Boxing: Sport of Fighting or Sport of Punching?

[FkDaHtrs]

bert Sugar of MMA? ...lol

But um wasnt this dude a comedian before he was an MMA announcer, I swear I seen him at the Laugh Factory doing stand up like 5 years ago

He still does from what I was told.

[deuce_drop]

i can see where they would separate the two to explain a difference between the two, fighting mma, boxing punching, they both have fight in them, and they're both on different logistics and standards.

the bottom line, if we're splitting hairs and marginalizing each sport, then yes, boxing is punching and mma is fighting. both take a high level of skill and conditioning and training, time and effort, so it's not fair to marginalize hard work and dedication.

for me, i think boxing is more refined and takes a higher level of concentration and focus. i also think that it takes higher level of skill to keep a fight a certain distance and control your fighter from a distance, because all fights the two combatants collide and clinch and in mma, usually go to the ground, where as in boxing, even without the help of a ref, you have to stay on your feet, and to be really effective as a boxer you have to keep you opponent at a distance, unless you're skilled in inside fighting which as well is a distance game to because you're not getting tangled up in clinches or wrestling down to the ground.

in mma guys fight hard to not get taken down, but guys take their opponent down a lot of times to get a rest, because it's harder to keep someone off of you in a standing boxing position.

for me it's the distance part of the game that makes boxing superior and makes it a sport of fighting with skilled punching, hard training and smarts, showing why it's the sweet science.

for the record joe rogan is a good guy, he's just pro mma............

[pistol whip]

all I know is if i'm going to get jumped 2on1 i'd rather be a great puncher than a wrestler.

It's more likely that two people will tackle you to the ground. Then what Mr. Boxer????


Personally I would rather be prepared for any situation instead of just one..

[Suckmedry]

Street fighting can never really be replicated 100% in a sporting environment, but both boxing and mma are very useful. Overall, MMA is probably more useful, but it depends a lot on the individual and how accomplished they are in their discipline.

But to say boxing isn't useful in a streetfight, is just ****ing ******. Anyone with extensive streetfighting experience I've talked to respects boxing very much. A guy I know who was in jail said they all used to practice boxing in the gym and get the ex-pro who was incarcerated to try and teach them boxing. Now this is jail we are talking about, the fights in there are intense. Why would they waste their time practicing an ineffective form of self-defence?



And also, all the best streetfighters I've seen (ones without formal training) all have a style and form that resembles a boxer. It helps to know some wrestling, but you never see a good streetfighter rushing in for a takedown, they throw punches.

[pistol whip]

i can see where they would separate the two to explain a difference between the two, fighting mma, boxing punching, they both have fight in them, and they're both on different logistics and standards.

the bottom line, if we're splitting hairs and marginalizing each sport, then yes, boxing is punching and mma is fighting. both take a high level of skill and conditioning and training, time and effort, so it's not fair to marginalize hard work and dedication.

for me, i think boxing is more refined and takes a higher level of concentration and focus. i also think that it takes higher level of skill to keep a fight a certain distance and control your fighter from a distance, because all fights the two combatants collide and clinch and in mma, usually go to the ground, where as in boxing, even without the help of a ref, you have to stay on your feet, and to be really effective as a boxer you have to keep you opponent at a distance, unless you're skilled in inside fighting which as well is a distance game to because you're not getting tangled up in clinches or wrestling down to the ground.

in mma guys fight hard to not get taken down, but guys take their opponent down a lot of times to get a rest, because it's harder to keep someone off of you in a standing boxing position.

for me it's the distance part of the game that makes boxing superior and makes it a sport of fighting with skilled punching, hard training and smarts, showing why it's the sweet science.

for the record joe rogan is a good guy, he's just pro mma............

I don't see how boxing has a higher degree of concentration vs any other form of striking or wrestling.

[MacDaRippa]

I havent read the whole thread, so sorry if I repeat anything anyone has already said. I think that legs are almost useless in a street fight, just because of all the adrenaline rushing it just makes it much harder to kick as your legs start to feel heavier. I would only learn to wrestle to get out of a ground situation as fast as possible, as not to get stomped on by any overexcited bystanders. In conclusion to my opinion, I would say that boxing with its superior footwork and easy to learn technique would result in the easiest way to defend yourself. just my two cents

[MacDaRippa]

I havent read the whole thread, so sorry if I repeat anything anyone has already said. I think that legs are almost useless in a street fight, just because of all the adrenaline rushing it just makes it much harder to kick as your legs start to feel heavier. I would only learn to wrestle to get out of a ground situation as fast as possible, as not to get stomped on by any overexcited bystanders. In conclusion to my opinion, I would say that boxing with its superior footwork and easy to learn technique would result in the easiest way to defend yourself. just my two cents

Sorry I do not know how it got double posted.

[Pullcounter]

a knife or gun is better in a street fight than wrestling.

[Forza]

A fistfight is still a fight. A lot of fights on the street go to the ground, but good hands can end a bad situation quickly.

MMA is closer to street fighting, but boxing is more than just hands. You gotta have footwork and headmovement.

Joe rogan is a 5'5 pothead douche that failed at comedy. He also tried to box in boston and got humilated everyday at the gym. Same gym that trained micky ward I believe.

[Forza]

BTW if you want to be a street fighter ( don't, it is ****** ) you should probably learn some wrestling on top of boxing. Grappling is very important. What happens when a boxer gets taken down? Game over usually. But if I was a top boxed I would be prepared. Train a little wrestling on the side, at least take down defense. Just in case somebody trys you on the street.

If you're known in the streets for having good hands, somebody is gonna try to wrestle you some day.

I think MMA fighters can learn a thing or two from boxers, and boxers can learn some quick grappling tehcniques from MMA fighters.