Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Mosley Possible at 148, For WBC 154 Title

[vercingetorix3]

......I like Pacquiao, I don't like Pacquiao's team.

[eltoro]

Your forgetting that these fighters that Pac is "supposiably" draining all have one common charecteristic. They all outweight pac anwhere from 10-20 pounds come fight night. Please name me a fighter that has fought with that kind of disadvantage in the ring! Name one outside of the HW division! Thats why this whole weight limit nonsense falls on it's face. Henry Armstrong fought guys at the full weight limit because the weigh in was held the same day of the fight so he was actually fighting someone who was gonna weight that much when they stepped into the ring. Pac fights guys that have a full 24 hours to rehydrate and blow up 17 more pounds. Thats why the catchweight argument it nothing but crap because pac isn't even fighting guys who are even jinior middleweights come fight night. He's fighting a super middleweight in his last fight for christ sake!!!

So its easier to loose weight then gain it? You can drink water and gain 5lbs quickly. when you work your ass off to loose what you can you exhaust yourself to a certain level you can handle but when you go the extra miles to loose those 2 or 3 extra pounds you have to drain yourself from eating anything or gaining any muscle loosing some ability. Duh they rehydrate themelves in 24hrs but with what? Muscle or some sort of ability? no, most of the time just regular food and water and it does not help you but just gets your body in the recuperating mode.
So I guess he should have gotten the Super Middleweight Title as well.

[pistol whip]

MAB was not himself in that fight and if you have seen many of his fights you should know. Can't take the win away from Pac after he convincingly defeated MAB in the rematch. He couldn't deal with his speed.
The OSDT is just something the Mayweathers requested because they believe that if someone small like Pac comes up to a bigger division and is unstoppable has to be on something. Its what they think.
I didn't say for Pac to go up in weight, he can fight for the Junior Middleweight Title and go in at any weight he wants as long as both fighters come in at the division limit of 154lbs. He weighed 144.something at the weigh in of the Margs fight having a catchweight limit of 150lbs. If not then he should stay in the welterweight division.
Ive seen all his latest fights, know all the facts, details etc. But i would be glad to see him fight someone that has not lost within their last 4 fights, maybe is undefeated and he take his 0 away, or a Champion to unify at least.

MAB was not himself that night because he was getting his asss kicked end of story.

Thats right the Mayweathers requested something and pac has every right to refuse it. The mayweathers are not the boxing commission and the boxing commission are the only ones who should have a say on that.

Again the catchweight was almost a formality since Margarito came in with a 17 pound weight advantage! Whats the problemwith the catchweight when Pacs opponent was almost 3 divisions larger than him anyways? Name just one Junior middleweight fighter that fightes with that kind of weight disadvantage name one?

[WESS]

But who perpetuated this nonsense! Seriously all I have ever asked for is an explaination as to "why" a catchweight is bad. And all I ever get is "because the max limit is 154". And??????????????? Thats not a ***ing explaination!

Dude wtf.... for one we all know this CW BS probably won't happen, so stop crying about CWs and giving excuses as to why YOU think there so rad for Pac to exercise. Second, you can't even validate why Pac is "picking" to fight Mosley AT WW in the first place let alone at a "catch" for a JMW title if it happens.

The bottom line, a CW or not at WW or JMW still does not validate Pac fighting a 40 year old Mosley who hasnt won a fight in almost 2 years you silly goose you. Neither you or anyone can validate this. Most use Mayweather as comfort food. You seem to be mumbling on about catchweights. Neither justify why Pac "selects" to avoid the best at each respected weight class.

If Pac wants to fight AT JMW, fight a JMW (Martinez wants HIS title back). If he wants to fight AT WW fight a WW (Mayweather's ironically in court where Pac wanted him in the first place BUT the undefeated WBC Champion in Berto is standing by).

So the list should consist of;

1. Mayweather AT 147 for the undisputed P4P #1 title
2. Martinez AT 154 for the JMW title (if Pac wants to fight at JMW)
3. Berto AT 147 to unify the WW titles (not a 135 lber/140lber in JMM)
4. JMM AT 140 (notice 140 NOT 147)
5. Bradley/Alexander at 140 or 147

But no, Pac's picking and choosing certain fighters AT certain weight classes AT certain weights. I don't no weather to say Pac is too big or too small anymore, which excuse are we using?

[justintd23]

This has to be a JOKE

I'm a Manny fan but I'm starting to really dislike him. Why is he fighting these f****** washed up fighters coming off poor, poor, poor performances? SSM? Are you serious, i watched his last couple of fights and I mean it was horrible watching him. This guy doesn't even have a fighting chance (he has no legitimate defense and he doesn't know how to release his hands anymore). They said Manny & Floyd could revive boxing but I feel they are both destroying it now.

[brick wall]

Why is it bad for boxing and why is 6 pounds bullcrap if everyone agrees and everyone makes weight? Like I said the "division" is 148-154 so whats the big deal? nobody said that title bouts "have to" be held with the full weight limit in effect.

it's a bad precedent that's what i'm trying to say. catchweight title fights was a bad precedent in boxing but people began to accept since a lot of top fighters were doing it. now if pac and shane will do it at 6 pounds off it will just be like adding insult to the injury.

[pistol whip]

So its easier to loose weight then gain it? You can drink water and gain 5lbs quickly. when you work your ass off to loose what you can you exhaust yourself to a certain level you can handle but when you go the extra miles to loose those 2 or 3 extra pounds you have to drain yourself from eating anything or gaining any muscle loosing some ability. Duh they rehydrate themelves in 24hrs but with what? Muscle or some sort of ability? no, most of the time just regular food and water and it does not help you but just gets your body in the recuperating mode.
So I guess he should have gotten the Super Middleweight Title as well.

Margarito was a career 147 pound fighter so fighting 3 pounds north of his career weight means he was draining himself?

And are you seriously trying to argue that the guy who was 17 pound smaller had an advantage? Are you really trying to argue that?

If so then why in the *** do we even have weight classes then since smaller fighters who are outweighted by 20 pounds will always have an advantage!!

[Ray*]

This people are just trying to destroy Pac's legacy without knowing it.

[oscar28mx]

It`s Ridicuously!!!

What the f.u.c.k. is wrong with boxing and the damn organizations this catchweight s.h.i.t,so now theres no f.u.c.k.i.n.g. weigh classes why would it be at 148 and not 150 like margarito or the way it should be 154.Enough with the catchweight if manny cant make 154 then he has to forfeit the title simple as that.

[pistol whip]

Dude wtf.... for one we all know this CW BS probably won't happen, so stop crying about CWs and giving excuses as to why YOU think there so rad for Pac to exercise. Second, you can't even validate why Pac is "picking" to fight Mosley AT WW in the first place let alone at a "catch" for a JMW title if it happens.

The bottom line, a CW or not at WW or JMW still does not validate Pac fighting a 40 year old Mosley who hasnt won a fight in almost 2 years you silly goose you. Neither you or anyone can validate this. Most use Mayweather as comfort food. You seem to be mumbling on about catchweights. Neither justify why Pac "selects" to avoid the best at each respected weight class.

If Pac wants to fight AT JMW, fight a JMW (Martinez wants HIS title back). If he wants to fight AT WW fight a WW (Mayweather's ironically in court where Pac wanted him in the first place BUT the undefeated WBC Champion in Berto is standing by).

So the list should consist of;

1. Mayweather AT 147 for the undisputed P4P #1 title
2. Martinez AT 154 for the JMW title (if Pac wants to fight at JMW)
3. Berto AT 147 to unify the WW titles (not a 135 lber/140lber in JMM)
4. JMM AT 140 (notice 140 NOT 147)
5. Bradley/Alexander at 140 or 147

But no, Pac's picking and choosing certain fighters AT certain weight classes AT certain weights. I don't no weather to say Pac is too big or too small anymore, which excuse are we using?

Im not trying to validate a Mosely fight i think the fight is **** and martinez is not the best at 154 he's a middleweight he said it himself he cant make Junior middle. If he fights berto im sure it will be at 147 and of course Manny is gonna fight JMM at 147 he wants the advantage. Bradley and Alexander hmmm don't you think they should fight the best in their divisions first before the fight the best in the world just a thought.

But thats not even what im arguing, what Im arguing is catchweights thats it.