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  • Originally posted by [KLT] Kirby View Post
    Why would someone fight at a 150 catchweight for a 154 pound title? Why not do the traditional way and fight at 154 pounds for the 154 pound.

    What the *** is this 154 pound title? There is no such ***ing thing it's the junior middle title and the junior middleweight division is anywhere from 154-148 pounds. And traditional? Traditionally weigh in's were held the same day as the fight but since we no longer do that a fighter like Manny ends up fighting guys that are almost 3 weight classes bigger than him so what is the reason to complain? Seriously don't you see how ****** it is to accuse the guy who is outweighed by 10 pounds or more of having an unfair advantage? Makes no ***ing sense!!!

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    • LOL at *******s in this thread actually defending this

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      • what the f uck is this sh it.

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          • Originally posted by Shadow boxer 3 View Post
            LOL at *******s in this thread actually defending this


            LOL at Pac haters who for some ****** ***ing reason try to argue that a guy who has been consistantly outweighed by 10-17 pounds is creating some kind of unfair advantage for himself.

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            • Originally posted by Da Hammer View Post
              LOL Pac is becoming a joke if this fight truly happens at 148. Part of me can understand him fighting Mosley because all fighters fight for the money, and if Arum believes he can market this bull fight then i won't argue with a man who's been doing this all his life. But a 154 title fight at 148? That's just making a mockery of the sport! Oh well i'll continue to enjoy other true big fights, when does Khan fight again?
              mosley is not a draw. did you not see his mumbers with mora? floyd is why floyd-shane did 1.4

              mosley is not a draw and your gode is pathetic

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              • Originally posted by RL_GMA View Post
                Oh oh look it's obvious that sugar ray leonard has a tremendous weight advantage in the fight!!!!

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                • Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
                  Im not trying to validate a Mosely fight i think the fight is **** and martinez is not the best at 154 he's a middleweight he said it himself he cant make Junior middle. If he fights berto im sure it will be at 147 and of course Manny is gonna fight JMM at 147 he wants the advantage. Bradley and Alexander hmmm don't you think they should fight the best in their divisions first before the fight the best in the world just a thought.

                  But thats not even what im arguing, what Im arguing is catchweights thats it.
                  Martinez and his team came back and said he will make 154 around the same time they said Pac was "too small". Again, that is nothing new as everyone has said this about Pac when fighting "bigger" fighters but now make a big deal because Martinez (a legit top JMW) said it? Its not Martinez's fault HOW Pac was "handed" (plaster free) the title AT JMW. Just like it wasn't Pac's fault that De La Hoya was a zombie. Pac still won the fights. The point is, Martinez VS Pac for the JMW title IS a legit fight.

                  I'm a huge fan of Martinez and he is no more MW than Pac is a JMW. The very same title Pac is holding and possibly defending (vs a WW) is the very same title Martinez held until this past June 2010. Martinez in fact deserves a fight with Pac more than ANYONE if Pac chooses to fight AT JMW. The BASIC boxing rules state that as long as neither fighter comes in over the maximum weight limit of that division its legal. In this case as long as neither come in over 154 it wont be a problem. That's if Pac so chooses to defend his JMW title. Martinez CAN make 154 because again he's a career JMW and also stated he could and would after he said he could only make 155.

                  Anyway Bradley and Alexander yes should be fighting the best in there respected weight class but then so should Pac. Maybe both should start doing so. Alexander and Bradley are fighting each other, that's a start. What's Pac doing? Fighting Mosley and possibly at JMW? I know you said its a shyt fight and I think it is too, but I guess Mosley AT 147 is better than JMM AT 147. That still goes back to my point of "picking and choosing certain fighters at certain weight classes AT certain weights.

                  With the catchweight issue, Pac's problem is how he goes about it. Catchweights aren't that bad until you start picking and choosing certain fighters AT certain weight classes AT certain weights. Just like how he fought De La Hoya AT 147 but DEMANDED that Cotto had to fight for HIS WW title at a "catch". Or "selecting" to fight a cheating 5'11 WW for a vacant JMW title. Or possibly now picking a shot 40 year old WW in Mosley to fight at a catch to defend his JMW title. Still no Martinez (5'10) who stands shorter than Margarito (5'11)?

                  Again this is avoiding the best at BOTH the WW and JMW divisions. I really hope this is just smoke and mirrors.

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                  • For me, Pac fighting Mosley in the first place is a bigger problem, than a catch weight. Mosley is obviously on the down side of his career, after his last two performances. Why is he being rewarded with this big fight, after two mediocer performances? Shane, as great as he once was, is obviously a bit long in the tooth. Perhaps if Manny was fighting more of a threat, at a catchweight...there would not be such outrage. At this point, he should not be fighting Mosley at ANY weight.

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                    • Originally posted by SaiZelion View Post
                      Are you friggin' serious???? Demanding a catchweight is hardly putting your belt on the line. Be a man and just fight Shane straight up. the division is 147-154, as long as Shane comes in within that weight range, there should be no stipulations about weight.

                      pacquiao fans wants everyone to share their adoration for Manny but how is that realistic when he keeps requesting catch weights. Manny gets to fight at weights comfy to him, but he for damn sure does not want that for his opponents.

                      The track record is irrefutable, yet pacquiao fans still defend it. Hell, when Mayweather fought Zab- AFTER he lost to Baldomir, Mayweather was WRONG for that. I called him out for it. But when pacquiao does wrong, manny fans don't call him out for it. Hypocrisy.
                      the floyd zab fight was signed before zab fought and lost to baldo. get your facts str8

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