A fighter coming off from a loss. Do you believe on this crap?

[jonesroy]

LOL all im saying is that when a guy loses they usually take a tune up fight. Geez relax. That's what the topic is about isn't it, about guys coming off losses? Pac had a tune up after Morales. He fought Hector Velasquez.

The "coming of a loss" excuse is nonsense. Both Dirrell and Froch came off losses to pull off upsets over Abraham. It's up to a fighter to take a tune up if he wants; if he doesn't, then that means he's ready to go. Zab Judah came off a loss to Baldomir when he stepped in with Floyd and gave Floyd a lot of trouble in the first few rounds. But then Floyd kicked it up a notch and dominated Judah. The Baldomir fight didn't affect anything. So many fighters have won immediate rematches b/c they learn from the loss. IF anything, a loss should make a fighter improve, not get worse.

[mexicali]

The "coming of a loss" excuse is nonsense. Both Dirrell and Froch came off losses to pull off upsets over Abraham. It's up to a fighter to take a tune up if he wants; if he doesn't, then that means he's ready to go. Zab Judah came off a loss to Baldomir when he stepped in with Floyd and gave Floyd a lot of trouble in the first few rounds. But then Floyd kicked it up a notch and dominated Judah. The Baldomir fight didn't affect anything. So many fighters have won immediate rematches b/c they learn from the loss. IF anything, a loss should make a fighter improve, not get worse.

Now im not saying it is best for them to take a tune up. All im saying is that, it is not uncommon to take a tune up after a loss. Please read before accusing. Good for Zab, Dirrell, and Froch for their comeback. Now would it be wise for Jermaine Taylor to rematch Abraham immediately? Or Khan tomake an immediate rematch with Prescott? Not every fighter is the same, and styles differ.

[arum_aka_T]

Didn't Morales lose to Raheem before fighting Pac?

That **** don't mean a thing.
Didn't froch lost to kessler before whooping abraham's?

[jonesroy]

Now im not saying it is best for them to take a tune up. All im saying is that, it is not uncommon to take a tune up after a loss. Please read before accusing. Good for Zab, Dirrell, and Froch for their comeback. Now would it be wise for Jermaine Taylor to rematch Abraham immediately? Or Khan tomake an immediate rematch with Prescott? Not every fighter is the same, and styles differ.

I'm not sure what I accused you of. A fighter can take a tune up if he wants, but can't use the "coming off a loss excuse" if he doesn't take one. As for Taylor rematching Abraham, he would get KO'd regardless of how many tune ups he take b/c he's a washed up fighter. I'm asssuming in this thread that the fighters under consideration are both in their prime and same weight class.

[mexicali]

That **** don't mean a thing.
Didn't froch lost to kessler before whooping abraham's?

Styles differ dude. It is not the same for every boxer. No excuse for Morales, but Froch has never in his career, probably entire career took more punishment than the 3 fights Morales had with MAB. With your logic of thinking, then Singurat is P4P #1 because he beat Pac. Do you see what I mean? You can't compare or say a different boxer can do it, because another one did it and had success. Some need tune ups some don't.

[jonesroy]

Styles differ dude. It is not the same for every boxer. No excuse for Morales, but Froch has never in his career, probably entire career took more punishment than the 3 fights Morales had with MAB. With your logic of thinking, then Singurat is P4P #1 because he beat Pac. Do you see what I mean? You can't compare or say a different boxer can do it, because another one did it and had success. Some need tune ups some don't.

I think this "styles" excuse is also used a lot. Morales lost to Pac b/c he was washed up and weigh drained; it wouldn't matter how many tune ups he took. As for Froch vs Abraham, both guys were coming off losses. Someone had to win and it was Froch.

[mexicali]

I'm not sure what I accused you of. A fighter can take a tune up if he wants, but can't use the "coming off a loss excuse" if he doesn't take one. As for Taylor rematching Abraham, he would get KO'd regardless of how many tune ups he take b/c he's a washed up fighter. I'm asssuming in this thread that the fighters under consideration are both in their prime and same weight class.

Well Im just a nobody who is speaking his personal opinion. Im pretty sure, the majority of the boxing world would agree, about tune ups. Some need them some don't. Just like how you have your personal opinion, its your personal opinion.

[mexicali]

I think this "styles" excuse is also used a lot. Morales lost to Pac b/c he was washed up and weigh drained; it wouldn't matter how many tune ups he took. As for Froch vs Abraham, both guys were coming off losses. Someone had to win and it was Froch.

The styles is an excuse now? Lol. I don't know but I will stick with the boxing historians, and professional analysts about styles. "Styles make fights"

[jonesroy]

Well Im just a nobody who is speaking his personal opinion. Im pretty sure, the majority of the boxing world would agree, about tune ups. Some need them some don't. Just like how you have your personal opinion, its your personal opinion.

I don't think you should call yourself a nobody, I just which people on these threads would give opinions based on all the facts and not just facts that suit their fighter. I think before the tune ups and styles excuses are used, people need to consider more concrete facts like the age, size, and maybe fight location.

[jonesroy]

The styles is an excuse now? Lol. I don't know but I will stick with the boxing historians, and professional analysts about styles. "Styles make fights"

You can stick with the analysts and their excuses. Both Dawson and Hopkins have the style to beat Pascal but it didn't and won't happen. Hopkins is just too old; it has nothing at all to do with style and location or whatever else you can think of.