Why doesn't Hopkins get suspected of being a PED user?

[Vasyl’s dad]

(sighs)....No one cares...let me rephrase it....the Floyd fan boys dont care, because Hopkins is not a threat to Floyd financially or technically.

Yea, we all understand and know that.

I just like pointing out how much of a double standard their is when it comes to boxing excellence.

Manny can do extraordinary things, but he must be one something because "nobody ever does that".

Bernard can do extraordinary things, but he gets a pass because, "its his style and the way he takes care of himself".

[FLYBOY]

Yea, we all understand and know that.

I just like pointing out how much of a double standard their is when it comes to boxing excellence.

Manny can do extraordinary things, but he must be one something because "nobody ever does that".

Bernard can do extraordinary things, but he gets a pass because, "its his style and the way he takes care of himself".

It's an unfair double standard. I do think Manny is on drugs. I don't know why these idiots are giving Hopkins a pass because it's not like Manny is an alcoholic and ******* addict. I think many elite fighters are on PED's....

[Vasyl’s dad]

It's an unfair double standard. I do think Manny is on drugs. I don't know why these idiots are giving Hopkins a pass because it's not like Manny is an alcoholic and ******* addict. I think many elite fighters are on PED's....

Again, I do not doubt that at all.

I just don't like the singling out of one person as if that person is the only one, while everyone else gets off scott free.

I'm all for better testing,

for everyone. Not just the guy that some fans dislike.


Roy Jones was actually caught,

and nobody said anything about his rematch with Bernard not having better testing.



Bottom line,

because they really don't care about the matter at all.

If they did, they'd see the signs around Bernard and everyone else, and demand testing,

for everyone.

[street bully]

The differrence is Pacquiao would never get robbed. Hopkins has had every fight that could go either way go against him, and now a clear win not go his way.

[Vasyl’s dad]

The differrence is Pacquiao would never get robbed. Hopkins has had every fight that could go either way go against him, and now a clear win not go his way.

Its hard to get robbed when you're stopping your opposition because your style is that of a whirlwind.

For a 45 year old fighter to be doing the things he does,

should raise an eyebrow.

But hes american,

so everyone turns the other way.

[FLYBOY]

Again, I do not doubt that at all.

I just don't like the singling out of one person as if that person is the only one, while everyone else gets off scott free.

I'm all for better testing,

for everyone. Not just the guy that some fans dislike.


Roy Jones was actually caught,

and nobody said anything about his rematch with Bernard not having better testing.



Bottom line,

because they really don't care about the matter at all.

If they did, they'd see the signs around Bernard and everyone else, and demand testing,

for everyone.

The testing is good. But if you have the right connections and the money you can get "pass" the tests even though you are on drugs... Watch the video I posted.

NFL and NBA have tests. Not sure if it's OSTD but they do have tests. And it doesn't take a PED expert to know that most of those guys are on PED's. And I haven't really heard of too many of them that have gotten caught for drugs.

When they get caught it's because someone snitches or because their doctors get caught. Barry Bonds, Derek Jeter, A-Rod. These 3 never got caught by the MLB drug tests. Their doctors got caught and then they got caught. Shane Mosley never got caught in the drug tests in 2003 against De La Hoya. It's the same NSAC that did the tests. The same NSAC that does the tests for so many fighters today. Mosley's doctor Victor Conte got caught and then Mosley got caught.

[FLYBOY]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Jones

Marion Jones didn't get caught by the Olympic Drug Tests. She didn't "fail" any tests. Her doctor got caught and then she got caught.

[crillz]

What Manny is doing, is clearly because of his style.

So, why the double standard?

so the fact that he takes punches and doesn't look in the least bit phased is due to his fighting style? the fact that over the course of his life he gained 40 pounds of raw muscle and made it look easier and easier as he went up which is literally unheard of in Boxing from anyone ever you saying that is due to his fighting style? the fact that he doesn't EVER run out of stamina or even breathe hard much at these higher weights where the weight should cause these effects on him you telling me that is due to his fighting style? I think it's "clearly" NOT

c'mon man be realistic, the things that cause people to question Manny Pacquiao are not things related to how he fights, people question Manny Pacquiao because of his transformation which has nothing to do with how he fights or how he throws his hands, in this instance you're asking me "why the double standard" yet no such double standard exists because NO ONE not even Bernard Hopkins has done or is doing anything close to what Manny Pacquiao is doing right now, simple as that

[Main Source]

Archie Moore still had a belt at age 48 and of course was a middleweight for most of his career.

/thread.

You're going over his head, Natas. This foe probably hasn't even heard of Moore. It's clear to me that he's a boxrec user, and a boxrec user only.

"Doing extraordinary things when he used to be just ordinary".

Excuse me, "just ordinary"? Did you start watching his fights in the late 00's?

[FkDaHtrs]

This day and age its possible there are a lot more boxers on PED's than we can imagine. That said, where do you draw the line of accusing a fighter, that does exceptionally well, of being on PED's? Is there no place for exceptional athletes anymore? Not all men are created equal when it comes to physical abilities. Sure Hopkins is old and doing exceptionally well for his age but its not like he's doing things he never did. He's not knocking these guys out in devastating fashion. I think anybody using this fight as an example of some abnormal non human like accomplishment is severely over rating Pascal as a fighter. Of course anything is possible, I just don't see it with Hopkins. 46 is not an unheard of age to be successful in boxing. Lets see him do this at 50 or 55.