Why doesn't Hopkins get suspected of being a PED user?

[Vasyl’s dad]

Hopkins in comparison hasn't fought nearly as many times as Moore and Moore fought until he was 48 or 49...
He also hired Mackie Shilstone who's pretty much a legend in the game.

You know who else Mackie Shilstone trained?

Roy Jones. Guess what he was popped for?

and this, is directly from Mackies bio.

At 5'8", 140 pounds, Mackie Shilstone is a giant in the business of fitness. He is America's number one Performance
Enhancement Expert

I'm telling you, the signs are there. Bernard just gets a pass because hes an american fighter whos affiliated with GBP.

[FLYBOY]

You know who else Mackie Shilstone trained?

Roy Jones. Guess what he was popped for?

and this, is directly from Mackies bio.






I'm telling you, the signs are there. Bernard just gets a pass because hes an american fighter whos affiliated with GBP.

Yes. and Bernard isn't the only athlete who goes to these "Performance Enhancing Experts" Most if not all professional athletes go to them and many fighters (who can afford them) go to them.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Not to be a ****, but there is so much flawed in your response, I don't even know where to begin.

Number one, I didn't say any fighter did or didn't. The point was that if a fighter did get faster or stronger, that would make a case for steroid use. As far as his healing abilities, I don't know how he feels after a fight. So, that's only speculation. As a matter of fact, he takes off a considerable amount of time in between most of his fights recently. If anything, that proves that it takes longer to recover.

Number two, some fighters have gotten stronger moving up. Some have not lost any speed. Judah and Mayweather didn't lose any speed that was noticeable moving up. Perhaps they have now, after aging a bit, but they moved up well with their speed. Juan Manuel Marquez doesn't look noticeably slower at 135 then he was at 130. Perhaps a tick I suppose, but it translated well. In terms of power, Paul Williams seemed to have a bigger punch at 154 then he did at 147. He knocked out a man at 147 in Quintana, and a journeyman at 160. So, realistically, it looked decent enough. Hard to gauge, but decent nonetheless.

Number three, and most importantly, steroid use is possible in virtually any case. However, like Pacquiao, there is no EVIDENCE of ANY use for Hopkins or Manny.

Therefore, Hopkins isn't accused. The reason Manny is accused is because a few people in the public's eye thought that he HAD to be using steroids. No indication that they had any PROOF of the matter, but they spoke in public. That's all it takes for rumors and what have you to arise.

Doesn't make it right, just what happens.

Needs time to cycle perhaps.

In regards to Manny, nobody, ever, mentioned anything about him and PED until one family did. Then all of their fans jumped on the wagon.


Hopkins isn't looked at as a suspect because hes an american fighter with one of its biggest promoters.

If you want to look at things objectively, you'd see hes very suspect.

A month shy of 46, and he dominated a much younger foe tonight, in exciting fashion.


The time has come to implement better testing for all of boxings participants, not just for one fight.

Bernard Hopkins is a perfect example of someone who should be looked at just as much as anyone.

Hes doing amazing things in the ring.

[FLYBOY]

This is the last response I'm going to make to you. Because well, please read that first post of yours to yourself. Out loud. If there's a sign of lack of intelligence, there's a gold mine right there.

Drug testing in boxing is a problem to the extent it is in many sports. Singling out Hopkins for it is far and away ****** as ****. And so are you. Pc out.

Read my first post again you ******. I didn't single him out. I think many fighters are on drugs.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Yes. and Bernard isn't the only athlete who goes to these "Performance Enhancing Experts" Most if not all professional athletes go to them and many fighters (who can afford them) go to them.

I do not doubt this one bit.

[FLYBOY]

I have posted this many times, but you guys really need to understand this....

[FLYBOY]

I do not doubt this one bit.

Thank you. At least some intelligent people on this board. Hard work and dedication play a big part in an athlete's success no doubt, but so do Performance Enhancing Drugs.

[rzagza]

Does Hopkins LOOK like a PED user? The guy doesnt eat fast food, and doesnt drink, ever. He lives very clean. His weight never gets out of hand. He wins behind ring guile, smarts and experience. He doesnt do extraordinary physical things in the ring ever, he just KNOWS what he's doing in there. He has no physical characteristic of being a PED user whatsoever. So he's old so he cant be any good?

Shut up.

[FLYBOY]

Does Hopkins LOOK like a PED user? The guy doesnt eat fast food, and doesnt drink, ever. He lives very clean. His weight never gets out of hand. He wins behind ring guile, smarts and experience. He doesnt do extraordinary physical things in the ring ever, he just KNOWS what he's doing in there. He has no physical characteristic of being a PED user whatsoever. So he's old so he cant be any good?

Shut up.

A lot of boxers don't drink and do drugs. Floyd Mayweather, Amir Khan, Muhammad Ali etc. It's not new.
Can you imagine a 46 year old doing what he is doing? Do you think a 46 year old can get that much stamina?

[Vasyl’s dad]

Does Hopkins LOOK like a PED user? The guy doesnt eat fast food, and doesnt drink, ever. He lives very clean. His weight never gets out of hand. He wins behind ring guile, smarts and experience. He doesnt do extraordinary physical things in the ring ever, he just KNOWS what he's doing in there. He has no physical characteristic of being a PED user whatsoever. So he's old so he cant be any good?

Shut up.

Does James Toney look like a PED user?




Quit being naive. Many boxers could be on PEDs, even our favorite ones.

I just don't see why people only look at one guy, when there are signs everywhere of boxers doing extraordinary things.

Bernard Hopkins is an example just like Juan Manuel Marquez is just like Manny Pacquiao is.

The thing is,

people only want to talk about PED use and one single fighter which shows a clear bias against that fighter.

With some of these boxers talking about, "If I was Manny, I would take the tests",

why aren't they doing them in their fights then?

Its always easy to say what you would do if you were in another mans shoes, but it doesn't mean **** if you're not doing it yourself.