Big Fights featuring Non-Americans should no longer be in America

[Earl-Hickey]

Again, big name Americans should fight in america, obviously.

But if its a brit vs an argie, or a spaniard vs a south african or whatever, it's pointless having it over there.

[Check]

OK maybe you are right on that side. I know the US venues pay to host some events, and obviously 10 mil is a lot.

That won't come back indeed.

However, the casinos will only put up those nubmers if asses come to the fight and gamble. If only 1000 peopel turned up, they would put less. So fans on seats dictate the amount given I assume. Correct me if I am wrong.

I would love to go to the US to experience fights, especially MSG AND MGM Grand, however it is too much for me.

Fights should be around the world for true fans who can;t afford to fly over, and in this sport, most of us aren't rich.

I agree with you and have always supported that boxing go back to its roots. In the U.S. for example fights should go back to Detroit, Chicago, New York, LA and other big cities. Get more exposure and then branch out, it's the only way to bring boxing back in popularity.

Theres a great fight coming to Detroit and the crowd will be rather small due to how boxing has been killed by the casinos. Had boxing not alienated the working class people it would not be in the rut it is now. I'm not fighting your argument at all, just stating that this is the way the sport is run right now. If demand changes and the casinos show less interest I think it's better for the sport.

[mrlopez]

Yeah, I'm not sure why fighters are so eager to fight here. Unless Hbo hypes the **** out of you and your fight, you'll probably draw 5000k people max.


This whole thing about fighting in the U.S is a ****** myth. Unless they're doing it for hbo money, there's no reason to come here because the sport is dead here and you'll most likely fight in an empty venue.


The Klitschko's are doing the right thing.

They might be doing the right thing for them, but they aint gettin no respect over here, and thats what they want and are trying to get

America runs boxing, get used to it. The casinos put down more money than any other place in the world. If there were more lucrative places, the events would be held there. The end.

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Good ****

That ain't the point though. It's not about how many asses fill up the seats. It's all about the mula and the casinos are throwing down enough to keep the big fights.

I actually wonder how many people on here that mock attendances have ever thrown down real cash to go to a big fight. I've spent good money on big fights in America but how many of these people from the U.K or whatever country are willing to put down 500 to a grand to go see live boxing? I doubt many would pay the premium rates that it costs to go see a HBO WCB/PPV in Vegas.

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Exactly, i've dropped some mad cash on fights too....
fact is if you want to make it in boxing, you have to fight here, respect it or accept it..............

[Pu$$yKiller]

On My phone now so can't quote you. I guess casinos milk what thy can get and if it dies down then boxing will have to start in home towns again and promote big. I agree that Vegas puts more money to promoters, but for fights that aren't from the US, I think more could be made out of their country. How much did the casinos give for jmm and katsidis for exmaple.

Not sure on ticket prices in mexico and australia though, but I guess boxng s prize fighting and money counts.

[APryor]

Maidana-Khan in either England or Argentina would have been great.
Marquez should be fighting in Mexico for the rest of his career and he'll be fine.

Agreed, fights like these should take place elsewhere

Yeah, cause so many non-Mexican fighters are gonna want to go fight in the narco-state of Mexico.

That was hilarious when Arum was claiming he would take Pacquiao to fight in Mexico. The idea that Pac's people would agree to fight a known cheater in the corrupt, failed state of Mexico is just ridiculous.

Even HBO's film crew doesn't want to go there. After the first time, they vowed "NEVER AGAIN"

You can't expect boxers to put themselves at the whims of corrupt, incompetent commissions, just because they would sell more 100 peso tickets.

[DET. IRONSIDE]

The dollar and the US market brings the fights to Vegas.

Its not gonna happen.

[APryor]

Again, big name Americans should fight in america, obviously.

But if its a brit vs an argie, or a spaniard vs a south african or whatever, it's pointless having it over there.

So fights can just be held anywhere, right? Argentina's commission is equal to Britain's? Maybe the two camps can just trust that there will be no cheating. The opponents and promoters can be on the honor system. You think the corruption in US, Germany, Britain is bad???

I can see a Brit who is a big draw at home staying in Britain. But a big name foreigner going to fight in Mexico or Argentina? WTF are you people smoking? Do you really think they want to be pelted with beer bottles filled with piss, and then cheated out of a victory? Maybe they can get their face smashed in by an opponent with bricks in his gloves. Sounds like fun...

Even dumber is that you don't consider the TV money. The TV money is more important than the gate. How much TV money will they get in Argentina? You think HBO is going to send a crew, with all their broadcast equipment, to cover the fight??? The fight won't be shown in the biggest market. Instead it will be shown in a tiny TV market.

And how much are they gonna charge per ticket? 10 pesos? They're better off selling 5K seats in the US than 20K in Mexico.

Again, I can understand a hometown fighter sticking in Britain or Germany, but the idea that a fighter will want to fight in his home African or Latin American country is just assinine.

[Boxin']

Again, big name Americans should fight in america, obviously.

But if its a brit vs an argie, or a spaniard vs a south african or whatever, it's pointless having it over there.

How is it pointless when its lucrative for the casinos in Vegas?

[Pu$$yKiller]

Just read That the MGM grand paid 500k to promoters for the Khan Vs MAidana fight and they get the ticket sales etc...

If that is the case then it's nit bad, but you can make more by selling full stadiums.