Big Fights featuring Non-Americans should no longer be in America

[Pu$$yKiller]

HBO would have no interest in Khan if he was just fight in the U.K. Khan putting 10,000 seats at home for 30 dollars a pop isn't going to get him the money that the HBO machine gets him. I don't think people understand the differences in pay from Sky Sports, Showtime, or whatever compared to HBO. They really aren't even comparable. There's a reason why the biggest names are always on HBO. Trust me if Amir could make more money doing what you propose he certainly would. I have a feeling he's not that nice of a guy to throw away millions lol.

You're chatting **** now.

HBO were offering near 1 Mil for Maidana and Khan in the UK, or 1.25 or something for the US.

Also Khan seats are minimum 75 dollars, and the close seats are 500 dollars.

I paid 300 dollars for one of his fights.

He is also now on UK PPV for about 25 dollars, not much but it brings in the money because it's not much.

Amir was already a millinoaire before he went to the US.

GBP said they would pay him a minimum of 1 mil US dolalrs for 3 fights. Good offer and Khan always wanetd big names. Juan Diaz, Nate and Katsidis before he hit it big and they were champs.

950K US dollars is about 600k here, he was making mroe already under Frank Warren.

I like you, but don't chat when you don't know what you're talking about because it makes you look dumb.

Khan wanted to get better as a fighter and make more bucks. Going to the US now is a good move, he gets to fight big names and get famous, but the money is not as good as it was. I believe Warren said he was getting 700-800k a fight and that's about 1 UK £ is 1.56 dollars so over a mill.

In the future, and on PPV in the US is where the real money comes in.

[Pu$$yKiller]

I didn't say UK fans don't go to Las Vegas and I didn't say that Las Vegas has all the fights. What I said was Las Vegas GETS any fight they want.

OK my bad, but read my above post. No offence BTW but I got abit critical.

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How many people do you think actually paid 450 dollars to see Amir fight in the U.K.? I can assure you his gate didn't come close to what Mandalay threw down to host his fight last Saturday. This is the thing you guys don't get. People don't live in Las Vegas, it's vacation town. When you hold an event in a fighters home town mostly people from that area attend and then they go home. That means your revenue comes strictly from ticket sales(portions go to other things but that's for another conversation). When you're in Vegas the casino can give millions of dollars to host because they are making it back because it's vacation city. People don't just show up for a fight in Vegas and go home. It's quite simple if you think about it.

[Pu$$yKiller]

How many people do you think actually paid 450 dollars to see Amir fight in the U.K.? I can assure you his gate didn't come close to what Mandalay threw down to host his fight last Saturday. This is the thing you guys don't get. People don't live in Las Vegas, it's vacation town. When you hold an event in a fighters home town mostly people from that area attend and then they go home. That means your revenue comes strictly from ticket sales(portions go to other things but that's for another conversation). When you're in Vegas the casino can give millions of dollars to host because they are making it back because it's vacation city. People don't just show up for a fight in Vegas and go home. It's quite simple if you think about it.

Las Vegas is the best when it's on top, but how amny people go to Las Vegas a year?

Only the very big names get that.

In the UK, plenty of people pay for fights. I recall looking at prices of tickets for the Khan and Maidana fight and it was not much more if any infact.

When you seat only 4.5K fans, then that's even worse.

The big thing that makes the difference is HBO money, which was something like 1,25 Mil. Easy money for promoters.

Trust me, the UK isn't poor, even in hard times. People still got money.

At least do some research man.

Many people pay that price for his seats.

Ringside was at the time 1k US dollars a few years ago. Now it's more like 1600 US now.

Then the seats about 5 to 10 rows is about 500-750 I would iamgine now.

Then like 20 etc are about 350. Gradually going less.

Then the thousands of very far seats were about 75 US dollars I think.

With his Sky Box office at 25 US dollars, it still makes quite abit. Not great for Khan, but quite a bit.

Khan puts all fans on seats, Pakistani, UK and Frank Warren had a lot of fighters on his undercards that got a lot of fans from their towns and cities to come.

For example 100's would come from one city and another to support their guy.

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Las Vegas is the best when it's on top, but how amny people go to Las Vegas a year?

Only the very big names get that.

In the UK, plenty of people pay for fights. I recall looking at prices of tickets for the Khan and Maidana fight and it was not much more if any infact.

When you seat only 4.5K fans, then that's even worse.

The big thing that makes the difference is HBO money, which was something like 1,25 Mil. Easy money for promoters.

Trust me, the UK isn't poor, even in hard times. People still got money.

At least do some research man.

I don't know how many times I gotta say it. It's not about the ticket sales, it's about the casinos throwing money down. If Amir sells 15,000 in the U.K it still is not going to come close to the 5,000 seats sold and the 10 million MGM/Mirage put down to host the event. The M.E.N or whatever stadium isn't going to flip Sky Sports 10 million to host a boxing event, infact they will charge to hold it at their arena. It's the same thing I said in my first post that it really doesn't matter how many asses are in the seats.

[Bastian Loc]

That ain't the point though. It's not about how many asses fill up the seats. It's all about the mula and the casinos are throwing down enough to keep the big fights.

I actually wonder how many people on here that mock attendances have ever thrown down real cash to go to a big fight. I've spent good money on big fights in America but how many of these people from the U.K or whatever country are willing to put down 500 to a grand to go see live boxing? I doubt many would pay the premium rates that it costs to go see a HBO WCB/PPV in Vegas.

I'm not sure what you're trying to argue here. That boxing is all about money, license and site fees and not about the fans?

I think you just made my point for me. I've been to Vegas many times for fights and frankly it sucks.

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I'm not sure what you're trying to argue here. That boxing is all about money, license and site fees and not about the fans?

I think you just made my point for me. I've been to Vegas many times for fights and frankly it sucks.

Pretty much, yes, it is more about the site fees and licenses and not about the fans. I don't know about Vegas sucking for big fights though. A big time fight on the strip is pretty amazing. Cotto/Margarito was electric.

[Bastian Loc]

Pretty much, yes, it is more about the site fees and licenses and not about the fans. I don't know about Vegas sucking for big fights though. A big time fight on the strip is pretty amazing. Cotto/Margarito was electric.

The fight itself was amazing, but flying there, having to book a room, etc is gay and starts to add up after a while.

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The fight itself was amazing, but flying there, having to book a room, etc is gay and starts to add up after a while.

Yep, that was kind of my whole point. That's why MGM/Mirage will continue to get any fight they want. Vegas simply isn't like any other city where you show up, watch the fight and leave. You are gonna spend a **** load of money.

[Pu$$yKiller]

I don't know how many times I gotta say it. It's not about the ticket sales, it's about the casinos throwing money down. If Amir sells 15,000 in the U.K it still is not going to come close to the 5,000 seats sold and the 10 million MGM/Mirage put down to host the event. The M.E.N or whatever stadium isn't going to flip Sky Sports 10 million to host a boxing event, infact they will charge to hold it at their arena. It's the same thing I said in my first post that it really doesn't matter how many asses are in the seats.

OK maybe you are right on that side. I know the US venues pay to host some events, and obviously 10 mil is a lot.

That won't come back indeed.

However, the casinos will only put up those nubmers if asses come to the fight and gamble. If only 1000 peopel turned up, they would put less. So fans on seats dictate the amount given I assume. Correct me if I am wrong.

I would love to go to the US to experience fights, especially MSG AND MGM Grand, however it is too much for me.

Fights should be around the world for true fans who can;t afford to fly over, and in this sport, most of us aren't rich.