Amir Khan and Marcos Maidana 1 and 2 in 140 lb

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  • jrosales13
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    #41
    Bradley is #1 @ 140 that is just clear, there should be no argument there.

    Khan is #2 I think that should be clear.

    3, 4, and 5 spots could go to either Alexander, Kotelnik, and Maidana in any order. But, they're 3, 4, and 5.

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    • Kagami Taiga
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      #42
      Originally posted by KrisSilver
      Incapable of discussing and making any kind of point rationally aren't you. You throw out logical meaningful points in exchange for your meaningless ranting subjective crap.

      Did Bradley beat the guy whom for actual years, had been considered the king at JWW, and had been Ring champ like it or not, people do follow?

      For the best part of a year since Bradley beating Witter, did he reach the top spot in the division as you so proclaim?

      The answer to both is simply no. No matter how badly you wish see it otherwise, ignore the respected ranking organisation for boxing (not you) and the actual facts.

      At any time Pacman was still considered active in the division, Bradley ranked the top guy there?

      He didn't take any crown's hat at the weight hence not being it's champ, nor the Ring champ, and has only really been #1 for 1 year+.

      Even then that could all change very soon.

      No matter how much you like the try to tweak fact, that's it above. Now suck it, grow up, communicate maturely and objectively.
      lol...once again, ill say it so u can understand. i am not talking about ring rankings. those are ring's personal opinion. pac was the ring champ. so what? did he want to fight bradley?? if he did, i assure u bradley would have fought him. bradley beat all the names at 140 before this influx of new talent. hatton didnt want to fight bradley, he was looking for big fights and then he retired. is that bradleys fault??? no.

      bradley was and is #1 since hatton retired. ring rankings man nothing in the face of facts. once again, how are u arguing otherwise??? because ring says so??? if thats ur argument then learn to think for yourself.

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      • starjammer
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        #43
        The winner of Bradley and Alexander Vs Khan should be for the true championship that Pacquiao vacated.

        Can't wait for that. But don't Bradley and Alexander have a rematch clause?

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          #44
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          Not true, Khan was the favorite by 3 or 31/2 to 1 against Maidana. Bradley was the underdog going into the Witter fight and went all the way to the U.K to fight him in the champ turf...Now that is impressive.
          Yes going to a champ's turf and winning is impressive. But you can't deny that Witter was past-prime.

          Originally posted by jrosales13
          And, if you talking about punching power Holt probably hit just as hart as Maidana.
          LMFAO! Nobody at 140 punches harder than Maidana, fact. His KO ratio proves it. Maidana is a P4P puncher.

          Originally posted by jrosales13
          Well not true again, because Bradley beat better fighters than Ortiz already.
          Ortiz is hyped up, I agree. But no doubt Bradley would have gained even more fans and would have been hyped up himself even more.

          Originally posted by jrosales13
          Are you making excuses? Jose Alfaro KO'd Chop Chop in 5 rounds WTF was Chop Chop doing their long enough to "gas out" a "dangerous" "puncher" in Maidana? GTFOH Maidana is just not as good as you trying to make him out to be.
          You can't deny Maidana was poorly conditioned and was looking past Corley.

          Originally posted by jrosales13
          No, that is not a fact that is an opinion dummy, do you know the difference?
          Maidana beats both Holt and Peterson.

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            #45
            Originally posted by starjammer
            The winner of Bradley and Alexander Vs Khan should be for the true championship that Pacquiao vacated.

            Can't wait for that. But don't Bradley and Alexander have a rematch clause?
            Yes it will definitely be for the Ring Magazine title. This is because after Bradley whoops Alexander, he'll be the number 1 rated fighter by the Ring, and Khan would be number 2. The championship is decided when number 1 and number 2 square off. Khan takes it by close UD, or early stoppage IMO.

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            • Pin Galarga
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              #46
              Some of you love streetfighting but less get real here. Maidana couldn't beat an old an beatup Corley and looked like **** against Khan. IMO He can't beat Judah, Marquez, Alexander, Bradley, Khan. He is maybe 6 or 7 in his division and Khan and his skills are maybe 3 or 4.

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              • the niggest
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                #47
                Originally posted by mellow_mood
                disagree.....

                1- bradley
                2- devon

                should be the top 2....
                Amir Khans resume is better than Devon Alexanders resume. Nobody can argue against that. And as far as I'm concerned it's all about resume when it comes to rankings. To have Devon above Amir in the rankings is pure ignorance and hate.

                But ok, what has Devon done to be ranked over Khan? His resume shure as hell aint better. He hasn't looked more impressive than Khan either. Atleast Khan won his last fight unlike Alexander who pretty much got a hometown decision. As I said... Ignorance.

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                • Ilov80s
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                  #48
                  The 6 guys at JWW are clearly Khan, Maidana, Bradley, Alexander, Ortiz, and Kotelnik.

                  Khan 2-0 widely beat Kotelnik and narrowly beat Maidana.
                  Maidana 1-2 stopped Ortiz and was narrowly defeated by Khan and Kotelnik.
                  Kotelnik 1-2 narrowly beat Maidana, lost badly to Khan, and took a paper thin decision loss to Alexander.
                  Alexander 1-0 narrowly beat Kotelnik.
                  Bradley 0-0
                  Ortiz 0-1 being stopped by Maidana

                  This has been almost like an unofficial tournement for the JWW thrown. Very hard to debate the rankings right now, but after by the end of the summer, we should have a clear winner and #1 challenger. I hope we see

                  Alexander/Bradley winner vs Khan
                  Alexander/Bradley loser vs Maidana,
                  Kotelnik vs Ortiz

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                  • jrosales13
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by £-4-£
                    Yes going to a champ's turf and winning is impressive. But you can't deny that Witter was past-prime.
                    What I can't deny is that Witter was a World title holder and unbeaten for almost 8 years. And, it was Bradley first fight against world class fighter. Junior Witter was ranked #1 at the time at 140. While Hatton was the champion of the division. But, Witter was rank #1 and Bradley hadn't fought. I mean prior to fighting Witter who had Bradley fought that made people think he could beat Witter in the U.K? Vazquez? Nobody really knew about Vazquez then. Now it seems like a better win but at the time?

                    So yea Witter at the time was more dangerous to Bradley considering all the circumstances than what Maidana was to Khan.

                    Originally posted by £-4-£
                    LMFAO! Nobody at 140 punches harder than Maidana, fact. His KO ratio proves it. Maidana is a P4P puncher.
                    KO ratio means crap...It all depends who you KO...Besides Ortiz who has Maidana KO'd? Cayo? Like I said barely edged out a shot to **** Corley. So much for KO power. Holt KO'd both Diaz and Torres that is just as good as KO'ing Ortiz and Cayo. So how do you figure that Maidana has more power?

                    Because, he KO'd 25 bums in Argentina? Let Holt fight those same fighters see if his KO % don't improve.

                    All I know for all this crazy power that people says he has. He is only 1-2 with 1KO against top 10 fighters. He couldn't stop both Khan nor Kotelnik and KO an overrated Ortiz...Not really impress TBH.

                    Originally posted by £-4-£
                    Ortiz is hyped up, I agree. But no doubt Bradley would have gained even more fans and would have been hyped up himself even more.
                    Eh...I don't know he would have still been rank #1 and a P4P top 10 player just like he is now.

                    Originally posted by £-4-£
                    You can't deny Maidana was poorly conditioned and was looking past Corley.
                    What I can't deny is that he barely edged out a shot to **** Corley. Not impressive at all.

                    Let stop with the excuses.

                    Originally posted by £-4-£
                    Maidana beats both Holt and Peterson.
                    He can beat today version of Holt, but the version that Bradley fought? Who knows, maybe. Peterson? Only one way to find out. Fight him...Or fight a rematch with Kotelnik avenge your lost...His crazy power should make it easy no?

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                    • jrosales13
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Ilov80s
                      The 6 guys at JWW are clearly Khan, Maidana, Bradley, Alexander, Ortiz, and Kotelnik.

                      Khan 2-0 widely beat Kotelnik and narrowly beat Maidana.
                      Maidana 1-2 stopped Ortiz and was narrowly defeated by Khan and Kotelnik.
                      Kotelnik 1-2 narrowly beat Maidana, lost badly to Khan, and took a paper thin decision loss to Alexander.
                      Alexander 1-0 narrowly beat Kotelnik.
                      Bradley 0-0
                      Ortiz 0-1 being stopped by Maidana

                      This has been almost like an unofficial tournement for the JWW thrown. Very hard to debate the rankings right now, but after by the end of the summer, we should have a clear winner and #1 challenger. I hope we see

                      Alexander/Bradley winner vs Khan
                      Alexander/Bradley loser vs Maidana,
                      Kotelnik vs Ortiz
                      Can't put Ortiz in the top 6 not after Saturday.

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