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  • brooklyngod
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    #71
    cant say the fight or the outcome made me say wow, i had said these to men would put on a great bout. which they most certainly did for sure and thats all i wanted to see. amir and marcos thanks for making it an exciting and fun fight to watch. cong**** to you amir and marcos i know he will be back better than ever

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    • Dave Rado
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      #72
      Originally posted by umzi4prez
      Off topic but please can someone answer me what the hell happened to james kirkland???did he fight??
      No, he went back to jail briefly and the fight was cancelled.

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      • Buffalo
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        #73
        Originally posted by adp023
        Dude, you act like you're the first person to think of any of this!! Your su****ions are over a year late.

        Pac & Khan no longer DRAIN themselves to make weight, which is the NUMBER 1 FACTOR of becoming "chinny". Also, Ariza is very transparent when it comes to his new strength and conditioning methods. He makes himself more than available to cameras, journalists and outsiders during the training camps and meals. He shows what's going on. Only now other boxers are starting to implement it. But if they still drain themselves before weigh-in, then they have problems! Fifteen years ago, it was the other way around!! Remember Gatti-Gamache where Gatti gained 18 pounds overnight and almost killed Gamache in the ring? Well now if Ariza conditioned Gamache, Gatti would be the one in trouble! It's the evolution of sports!!

        Also, notice that Ariza is just one guy unlike Victor Conte and Mackie Shilstone that have or had multi-million dollar facilities for athletes, which they hid behind. Both Conte and Shilstone worked with boxers that were busted for steriods/PEDs in the past (Holyfield, Roy Jones and Shane Mosley). Malignaggi even started training at the Wild Card and now he's no longer mouthing off about Freddie & Ariza. Conte works with Donaire now who is good friends with Pac. Look how Donaire moves up in weight and dominates. The only people that still criticize these conditioning methods are the delusional Mayweathers.
        wow, you should read more. I'm not a mayweather and I have su****ions

        1. You pac fans used to rave about his ability to rise to "unnatural weightclasses" and dominate "bigger" fighters. Now when it's convenient, he's at his natural weight. This no longer weight drained thing is a joke. He eats 7000 calories a day to make 144.5 but you say he is naturally 147......

        2. Do some research. Freddie roach is tied to fighters who have cheated. They also have no integrity as they fight suspended fighters and propose fighting another cheater. I Really don't even get your point with all these names. What would malinaggi do, complain about his new team? I don't know if that camp is dirty, but pretending like they are above it is garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!

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        • The_Demon
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          #74
          Props to both guys for showing so much heart and giving us a really good scrap,i had khan up by 2 points,the fight was close and we saw strengths and weaknesses from both guys

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          • 1/2FireH20
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            #75
            Originally posted by Buffalo
            wow, you should read more. I'm not a mayweather and I have su****ions

            1. You pac fans used to rave about his ability to rise to "unnatural weightclasses" and dominate "bigger" fighters. Now when it's convenient, he's at his natural weight. This no longer weight drained thing is a joke. He eats 7000 calories a day to make 144.5 but you say he is naturally 147......

            2. Do some research. Freddie roach is tied to fighters who have cheated. They also have no integrity as they fight suspended fighters and propose fighting another cheater. I Really don't even get your point with all these names. What would malinaggi do, complain about his new team? I don't know if that camp is dirty, but pretending like they are above it is garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!
            Thanks Buffalo,

            My point exactly, people act like Roach is above cheating, he has had fighters in the past get caught as well, but just like Fox news people will only tell one side of the story. The reason that this is a year old news is because I needed to see another boxing in Roach/Ariza camp before started putting 2 and 2 together. If it was just Pacq, then maybe he was a diamond in the rough that just needed to have his technique polished and some more training, and his "clitoris" gloves.

            But to see A Meer Con do it as well and just shrugg off the damage is too coincidental. And yes he was rocked in the 10th, repeatly and yet he didn't go down, so I guess roach also showed him how to survive as well. RRRIIIIIGGGGHHHHHTTTTT. These are just my thoughts on a fight where I saw two warriors battle and I saw someone who had his jaw exposed in the past weather a hurricane from a fighter with a 90% knockout rate. Now maybe he can, or maybe he has a little extra help with his equilibrium....

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              #76
              Originally posted by Russian Crushin
              Less then 4000 people?

              Seeesh
              Khan has his followers but he will not become that big a draw in the U.S. Some of it is racist due to his religious beliefs in the age of Afghanistan, some of it is a justified notion that he is going to fold at any second.
              My perception is that the tenth round may have taken a great deal out of him and he will be even more cautious when he is matched against another big puncher. He must be promoted with great care. Amir avioded this hurricane but it is easy to see how he could drown at any moment.
              If they match him against Judah, it is as bad as matching Mosely against Manny.
              Both are fighting on their names and limited time.
              In closing, Maidana was all heart, nerve and soul. He did not come for stardom. He just came to win.
              Cortez did seem to have an agenda.
              Refs have been hit smack on the jaw without administering a consequence.
              It was a heated moment and unworthy of a point deduction. So much for "fair but firm."

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              • khatalyst42
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                #77
                maidana was amazing last nite

                I agree with you. It was maidana vs khan/cortez. Check out my blog at URL.. gandhijis-talisman.posterous.com. The blog post is titled, Amir Khan Survives the 10th round to win a unanimous decision. Check it out and let me know your thoughts....ROUND 10 WAS AMAZING. MAIDANA IS A GAMER.

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                • laplapigos
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by 1/2FireH20
                  I saw the fight last night with Khan and Maidana and something struck me as very odd. Khan was getting hit with BOMBS by Maidana and was just shrugging them off as nothing. He was dazed a few times but still he was spry and moving around delivering combo's when he wanted in the 11th and 12th rounds. He reminded me of Pacq when he was fighting Cotto. Then something dawned on me.... What is the common factor between Pacq and Khan; both were guys who have been down before, Khan 3 times prior, and Pacq a few times himself, and now they can not be taken off of their feet by some of the hardest punchers landing the flushes shots. This isn't Mosley who has never been knocked down; these are guys who have been down before.

                  One common thing is Roach, and while a trainer can make your shots harder, make you faster, stronger, throw straighter and truer, he can't make your chin any stiffer, either you can take a hit on the jaw or you can't. Now I know there are certain on the button shots that will knock any man out but there are also accumulative shots that will also chop a tree down and Maidana was landing those on Khan last night, and he was just smiling at the end of the 10th.

                  That made me think of the second thing that they have in common and that is strength and conditioning coach in Ariza. Now I know many people will shoot me down and call me a hater, a racist, a ******, and what not, but I believe that Ariza is juicy them guys with something that lets them shrug off damage. Khan's face was damaged and he still was acting like he wasn't fazed, slugging at the final bell, Pacq said his ear drum was busted at the end of the Cotto fight and still he was swinging away with no signs of damage, Clottey hit pacq with crushing uppercuts (infrequently though) and still he came, Margs battle for a few rounds and pacq was unfazed. Maidana was landing Bombs on Khan and he was looking as fresh as round one throughout the fight.

                  Their ability to walk through fire and come out like they had a Halo energy shield is just too fishy for me. Both these guys defense is not that great, Khan was getting hit with too many power shots, but why should he care, he could have had his hands down the whole fight if he knew that he would not feel any of the punches and that he would never go down. Now people will be like, "tell me what he is taking then, what could it possibly be..." remember "the clear" was unheard and unthought-of of until it was exposed and studied. Ariza may have the next enhancer that either allows you to ignore pain or helps with equilibrium and balance so that stuff that would normally knock you off, won't know. It could do something to your inner ear fluid to help avoid sea sickness and such.

                  You may laugh but if Khan and Pacq keep fighting and never look hurt or go down, you will remember this post. Especially for two guys that have been down before and have not improved their defense one bit.
                  why wouldn't you include clottey and margarito?????why only packyow and khan?why not maidana aloso??have you seen fighters not getting up when hit on rib cage???why didnt you include maidana???expalin

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                  • newcastleking
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                    #79
                    after watching kahn last night i bet jm marquez at 140 could knock him out no doubt and get his 4th title, but keep joe cortez out of there.and about kahn goin welterweight, forget about it, he will get anihalated.

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                    • adp023
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Buffalo
                      wow, you should read more. I'm not a mayweather and I have su****ions

                      1. You pac fans used to rave about his ability to rise to "unnatural weightclasses" and dominate "bigger" fighters. Now when it's convenient, he's at his natural weight. This no longer weight drained thing is a joke. He eats 7000 calories a day to make 144.5 but you say he is naturally 147......

                      2. Do some research. Freddie roach is tied to fighters who have cheated. They also have no integrity as they fight suspended fighters and propose fighting another cheater. I Really don't even get your point with all these names. What would malinaggi do, complain about his new team? I don't know if that camp is dirty, but pretending like they are above it is garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!
                      NONE of these points are valid. There is NO RESEARCH or FACTS behind it. Malignaggi is NOT part of Roach's team!!! He just trained there recently. So Paulie can still criticize them if he wanted to!!

                      Where in my statement did i say Pac is "naturally 147"?? Again...another bull**** point you made!! I just stated that DRAINING the body to make weight and recovering 24 hrs later is no longer a competitive advantage in the sport!! Roach believes it's overrated!! And where did I imply that anyone is "above" being dirty??? I just proved that Ariza is transparent regarding his methods. If he is hiding something, then I say...PROVE IT or at least give some intelligent analysis!! Just stating that a fighter like Khan getting knocked out at lightweight and then being able to take a punch at jr. welterweight is cause for su****ion just shows how little about boxing they really know!!
                      Last edited by adp023; 12-12-2010, 07:51 PM.

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