Is Roach the most overrated trainer of all time?

[Bastian Loc]

I'll get sardonic when you make dumb threads like this. Yes, you are missing something. Cotto is a classy boxer.

As far as you picking khan to clown manny, let's just say you don't have a rep around here as an expert fight prognosticator and this is just another example of why. This desparation thread isn't helping either.


There's no classier boxer than jmm and PAC won maybe 2 rds vs him the first time, and 5-6 the second time. If you can't recognize the difference in pac's rhythm, timing, arsenal, gameplanning, and execution then I don't know what to tell you.

Manny's never going to be a master boxer, but his style is refining to a point where he's a problem for anyone and everyone.

4 trainer of the year awards.......if he sucks then the others are dirt.

boxing is not a merit based sport like organized sports. Its political and full of corruption.

[Bastian Loc]

You're officially being ******. Roach was a boxer too.

Have you ever heard and interview or read anything fortune has said about learning from Freddie. Obviously not.

If any boxer could train...well never mind, if you don't know it already or are choosing to ignore it then you're just useless.

Futch was busy with other fighters and Freddie did pretty much all the work with him. But I'm sure you already know that since you train at the wild card 5 days a week and can tell Freddie sucks as a trainer.

If you put me on iggy, you're the biggest bit ch that ever logged on to boxingscene.

Alright Mr. you've had enough for tonight. Call a cab and go sleep it off champ.

[LeeVanCleef]

What's wrong with being universally praised and awarded too much to the point of annoyance?

[Hankey]

Lulz at the coward move by ripper putting walt liquor on ignore/waving the white flag of surrender.

You're no fighter jack. You're a lying pu$$y, that I know for sure.

And you trolling skills have gone from admirable to scrub level.

[Bastian Loc]

Lulz at the coward move by ripper putting walt liquor on ignore/waving the white flag of surrender.

You're no fighter jack. You're a lying pu$$y, that I know for sure.

And you trolling skills have gone from admirable to scrub level.

Walk if off Walt.

This is not a troll thread, I've seen the guy in action day in and day out, there's nothing he does that's special.

Don't make me put your alt on timeout too.

[DAN916]

The reason i say hes somewhat overrated is because of comments like hes the best in the game right now because aslong as Steward is active coaching champions or not hes at legendry status.

[Chups]

boxing is not a merit based sport like organized sports. Its political and full of corruption.

Take a deep breath and think. Who do you think deserved the years he won those awards? It was unanimous when he won it. If he didn't, many, specially fans would have complained.

[jrosales13]

Stop trolling man. Go to the wildcard 5 days a week and see what a great trainer he is.

No, you're trolling cuz you couldn't even dispute the point I made.

[Alex_Hayden]

Was Toney using his steroids when under Roach's tutelage?

And Roach has been around for a LONGGG time, than out of no where he's getting all this praise and shredding his fighters up like someone put a scalpel to their bodies.

I hate when you start seeing signs of cheating because it opens up a rabbit hole where you have to ask question everything because your logic will make you wonder.

[Bastian Loc]

Take a deep breath and think. Who do you think deserved the years he won those awards? It was unanimous when he won it. If he didn't, many, specially fans would have complained.

It was political.

Not merit based.

No, you're trolling cuz you couldn't even dispute the point I made.

I've seen it first hand, I don't need to dispute your anecdotal point.