Is Roach the most overrated trainer of all time?

[Zarco]

Overrated, his claim to fame is mickey rourke and Pacquiao. Pacquiao is mostly Pacquiao because of his natural abilities(things Roach did not teach him). I reckon any elite trainer would have taken Pacto where he is today because he would still have the speed, power, and athleticism. Even today Pacquiao still makes alot of technical mistakes but he has been in there with the right opponents.

[DondiNeverLeft]

No, you're trolling cuz you couldn't even dispute the point I made.

Its a trick "point". How can you have a rebuttal to a poster who is pointless?
Walk it off J Ro. from the block. Marc is calling. Dont take him serious Gore.

[Bastian Loc]

Overrated, his claim to fame is mickey rourke and Pacquiao. Pacquiao is mostly Pacquiao because of his natural abilities(things Roach did not teach him). I reckon any elite trainer would have taken Pacto where he is today because he would still have the speed, power, and athleticism. Even today Pacquiao still makes alot of technical mistakes but he has been in there with the right opponents.

Exactly.

I guess you're not totally shot yet Zarco.

[Neutral Corner]

If Roach is so overrated how come he hasn't been exposed?

[the gent]

Exactly so Roach gets a lot of credit for doing nothing but working with Manny and keeping him away from boxers while asking for catchweights to drain his opponents.

Do you even know anything about Boxing?

[jrosales13]

I've seen it first hand, I don't need to dispute your anecdotal point.

Again He had world titles before anybody has heard of Pac.

So to say Pac made him is quite bit ridiculous.

[Avenue]

yea he def gets way more credit then he deserves
but the simpletons on this website would just agree with what the rest of the simps say

[MaD RoBoT]

Don't get sardonic.

You know most of that stuff is political regarding "boxers that want him to train them".

And the improvement in pac has more to do with facing comeforward brawlers and no boxers.

Its an illusion.

David Diaz
Hatton
Cotto
Oscar(dead)
Margarito
Clottey.


No classy boxers there unless I'm missing something.


Its like this 90% carefully selected opposition, 10% improvement.


Match him up against anyone who could box like JMM or Floyd and he looks like a 1 handed amateur again.


I'd even pick Khan to clown him.

match up JMM to other best counterpunchers in the business & he'll get exposed too

Chris John, MAB, Floyd

he also looks good fighting forward fighters

Pac, J.Diaz, Katsidis

FACT

[Brutal Honesty]

What has he done outside of keeping Pac away from guys who can box?


Good matchmaker? Yes.


Great trainer??

Lol... before Pac he was known for training Tyson and Toney late in their career after they already learned how to fight.


Pole to cumm.

Don't get sardonic.

You know most of that stuff is political regarding "boxers that want him to train them".

And the improvement in pac has more to do with facing comeforward brawlers and no boxers.

Its an illusion.

David Diaz
Hatton
Cotto
Oscar(dead)
Margarito
Clottey.


No classy boxers there unless I'm missing something.


Its like this 90% carefully selected opposition, 10% improvement.


Match him up against anyone who could box like JMM or Floyd and he looks like a 1 handed amateur again.


I'd even pick Khan to clown him.

Amir's been boxing since the age of 8 and was successful before he got with Roach.

Roach didn't have anything to do with him being where he is. He's just piggy backing on it.

what an absolutely ignorant, ******, & pretentious posts. Only in the internet can a highly successful renowned & decorated hall of fame trainer who has trained more than 20 champions can become overrated. I dont even think you believe this garbage but only post this crap to elicit a slew of responses in order to get your rocks off flaming each one of them.

The TS fits the profile to a T of pathetic internet warrior losers who have accomplished very little in their trivial & uneventful life & turn to internet message boards & demean discredit people that are the complete opposite of them; rich, famous, & successful, & try to masquerade as some all knowing sage when in reality they are the exact opposite.

A lonely overgrown infant whose opinion in his real life is marginalized so they come to the internet to compensate for it. Roach is a renowned boxing trainer & there's nothing you can do or say to change it.